A friend who knows about the BBS jokingly said I should set up a connection
to Gopher. Just out of curiosity, is Gopher still in operation and if so, is there a way to create a menu/section for a Mystic BBS user to use Gopher Search?

I think it would be really fun and funny to set that up, if it could be.

Thanks,
Chris aka Lord Gareth

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On 25 May 2020 at 08:30a, Lord Gareth pondered and said...

A friend who knows about the BBS jokingly said I should set up a connection to Gopher. Just out of curiosity, is Gopher still in
operation and if so, is there a way to create a menu/section for a
Mystic BBS user to use Gopher Search?

There's a mod I know of that Xqtr created for Gopher... from memory. Let me find it and hatch it out to FSX_MUTL file echo.

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On 26 May 2020 at 08:47a, Avon pondered and said...

There's a mod I know of that Xqtr created for Gopher... from memory. Let me find it and hatch it out to FSX_MUTL file echo.

Found two, hatched them out now... cheers.

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Nice,

I'll find and download it shortly. I really appreciate it.

Thanks,
Lord Gareth

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Hi Avon,

I set up the Gopher client on my board and it works great. I think my friend who recommended it was being a bit sarcastic but, I figured, if I am going to go old-school, go big or go home!

-Lord Gareth

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Twas Monday, May 25th when Lord Gareth said...

A friend who knows about the BBS jokingly said I should set up a connection to Gopher. Just out of curiosity, is Gopher still in operation and if so, is there a way to create a menu/section for a Mystic BBS user to use Gopher Search?

Someone already responded RE the mod avail for Mystic. From there, yes there are quite a few Gopher sites out there (and even a new Gopher-like protocol with TLS people have implemented). Feel free to link Xibalba to your Gopher setup if you make one (gopher://xibalba.l33t.codes:44513)


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NuSkooler
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NuSkooler wrote to Lord Gareth <=-

Twas Monday, May 25th when Lord Gareth said...

A friend who knows about the BBS jokingly said I should set up a connection to Gopher. Just out of curiosity, is Gopher still in
operation and if so, is there a way to create a menu/section for a Mystic BBS user to use Gopher Search?

Someone already responded RE the mod avail for Mystic. From there, yes there are quite a few Gopher sites out there (and even a new
Gopher-like protocol with TLS people have implemented). Feel free to
link Xibalba to your Gopher setup if you make one (gopher://xibalba.l33t.codes:44513)

Yeah, sdf.org's gopher has a great listing. Plus a search engine still exists called veronica. You'll find it on sdf.org

Daniel Traechin

... Visit me at gopher://gcpp.world
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On 25 May 2020, Lord Gareth said the following...

A friend who knows about the BBS jokingly said I should set up a connection to Gopher. Just out of curiosity, is Gopher still in
operation and if so, is there a way to create a menu/section for a
Mystic BBS user to use Gopher Search?

I'm not sure about an interface from Mystic to gopher, but I can tell you
that gopher is still pretty much alive. There's been a revival movement for
the past few years within a very active community. If you use IRC you can
join #gopherproject at freenode to learn more or just ask me any questions.

I'm part of this movement and the creator of gopher://gopherddit.com/ which
is a full gatweway to Reddit using gopher. If you're curious, you can use
lynx to open gopher holes, it works flawlessly. There are tons of phlogs,
which are the equivalent to web blogs and personal gopher holes, like mine
for instance, which you can access by pointing lynx or any other gopher
capable browser to the address in my signature below.

If you can't access gopher directly, here's a web gateway to gopher, which
also hosts Veronica-2, a gopher search engine and links to very important gopher holes that are good starting points:

https://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw

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Vasco Costa AKA Gluon

Gopher hole: gopher://gopher.geeksphere.tk/

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Hello Daniel!

This world is small, isn't it?

We've exchanged some messages at comp.infosystems.gopher and now I can see
you also like the BBS scene...

Cheers. :)

---
Vasco Costa AKA Gluon

Gopher hole: gopher://gopher.geeksphere.tk/

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Gluon wrote to calcmandan <=-

Hello Daniel!

This world is small, isn't it?

We've exchanged some messages at comp.infosystems.gopher and now I can
see you also like the BBS scene...

Yes indeed it is. It's nice to see that NG being active again.

... Visit me at gopher://gcpp.world
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On 26 May 2020 at 10:03a, Lord Gareth pondered and said...

Hi Avon,

I set up the Gopher client on my board and it works great. I think my friend who recommended it was being a bit sarcastic but, I figured, if I am going to go old-school, go big or go home!

cool, glad it worked for you :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/20 (Windows/32)
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Wow, I didn't realize there was such an active Gopher community. I know a little about Gopher, well, enough to know what it is and what it meant for
the early days of the internet. Not enough about current usage and how it
all works behind the scenes.

That being said, I will need to look more into it and see how it all works.
I just explored this as a response to a friend and didn't quite know what I
was getting into. I'm excited to find another future project to investigate, especially considering there is a Gopher server for Mystic,

That's what you get for exploring Gopher holes. Sometimes you find an alternate path to Wonderland.

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Lord Gareth wrote to Gluon <=-

Wow, I didn't realize there was such an active Gopher community. I
know a little about Gopher, well, enough to know what it is and what it meant for the early days of the internet. Not enough about current
usage and how it all works behind the scenes.

That being said, I will need to look more into it and see how it all works. I just explored this as a response to a friend and didn't quite know what I was getting into. I'm excited to find another future
project to investigate, especially considering there is a Gopher server for Mystic,

That's what you get for exploring Gopher holes. Sometimes you find an alternate path to Wonderland.

Yeah and people can pull the plug on something great too. Until a few months ago someone had a gopherized news site that pulled rss feeds and some scripting magic to pull in the rest of the stories. He killed the page one day because he didn't want to pay for the domain reg.

Daniel Traechin

... Visit me at gopher://gcpp.world
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Hey Gluon,

Do you know of any resources on building Gopher sites? I couldn't figure out the Gopher blog script for Mystic but, I do still want to create a Gopher
site.

I have the server up and running but, no content.

Thanks,
Chris aka Lord Gareth

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On 02 Jun 2020, Lord Gareth said the following...

Hey Gluon,

Do you know of any resources on building Gopher sites? I couldn't
figure out the Gopher blog script for Mystic but, I do still want to create a Gopher site.

I have the server up and running but, no content.

Hey Lord Gareth,

I don't know of any tutorial like resource, but the beauty of Gopher is that
it is basically a distributed file system. No more, no less.

So if you have the server up and running already, the simplest way to add content is to add some files/folders you'd like to share to the folder specified as the root folder on the server. In a way, you can see Gopher as an FTP server accessible through a Gopher browser. Or you can also compare it to
a website where there is no html but purely a tree of files/folders that are served.

For instance, suppose you want to talk a little bit about you. You could
create a text file called "About Me.txt" and inside create some text
describing you. Further if you wanted to share your online contacts, you
could create a text file called "Contacts.txt" and fill it with your email, username, phone, etc... Now, there's nothing stopping you from using other
file types, like for instance a folder called "My favourite music" with a collection of mp3 files.

If creating a blog, or phlog in this case, is what you had in mind, then you can have a folder called Phlog and then subfolders named by full date or
month like for instance "April", "May", "June". Inside these folders, you
could create text files to represent your posts, using the subject of the
post to name the files. Something like "How to join fsxNet using Mystic.txt".

You might be wondering about the extra text and formatting that you see in
many gopherholes, including mine at gopher://gopher.geeksphere.tk/. That is just extra info that you may or may not use, to perhaps make your hole
unique. To achieve this you need to create a special file, called a
gophermap. A gophermap file has more or less the same function of a simple index.html file as used in the 90s to create a simple annotated index of your content. But of course, you can get creative and use even ANSI art inside
your gophermap. I use it myself to create a very simple "GEEK SPHERE" banner, but there's a gopherhole that went as far as creating a solitaire game in Gopher using ANSI art. :)

There's a nice site describing how to use gophermap files here:

https://gopher.zone/posts/how-to-gophermap/

I hope this message was helpful in some way and please feel free to ask me
any more questions about Gopher. As a final note, below you can see the file tree for my personal gopherhole:

gluon@neptunium:~/var/gopher $ ls
about.txt contacts.txt gophermap pastebin sites
aircraft doc guestbook.txt rfc src
cgi-bin extmap notes robots.txt weather

---
Vasco aka Gluon

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Thank you for such a detailed response. That is a lot easier than I thought
it might be. I may want to do some formatting to have it be green DOS-like text on a black screen with some headings but, other than that I am fine with just having folders, text files, etc.

I will follow the link you sent on the equivalent of a gopher index page and
go from there.

Thank you again for the help!

-Lord Gareth

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I re-read the instructions for the Mystic-based editor. I see where I got confused. The HTML part of the editor allows for CSS and such but the Gopher part is just straight Gopher.

So, it is a bit more complicated than just regular Gopher.

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On Wed 27-May-2020 5:45a, Calcmandan@21:1/137.0 said to Lord Gareth:

Lord Gareth wrote to Gluon <=-

Yeah and people can pull the plug on something great too. Until a few
months
ago someone had a gopherized news site that pulled rss feeds and some scripting
magic to pull in the rest of the stories. He killed the page one day

I've had a Gopherhole up @ gopher://centralontarioremote.com for ages now and the main reason I keep it is to keep my gopher connections to a few Amiga file sites that exist there. Old, yet still cool.

Thx for hanging out on my IRC server.

<grin>

Mick

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Mickey wrote to Calcmandan <=-

On Wed 27-May-2020 5:45a, Calcmandan@21:1/137.0 said to Lord Gareth:

Lord Gareth wrote to Gluon <=-

Yeah and people can pull the plug on something great too. Until a few months
ago someone had a gopherized news site that pulled rss feeds and some scripting
magic to pull in the rest of the stories. He killed the page one day

I've had a Gopherhole up @ gopher://centralontarioremote.com for ages
now and the main reason I keep it is to keep my gopher connections to a few Amiga file sites that exist there. Old, yet still cool.

Time for my to visit.

Thx for hanging out on my IRC server.

Sure. I keep connected via a quassel core instance on my gopher server box. I've yet to see a conversation though.

Daniel Traechin

... Visit me at gopher://gcpp.world
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On Thu 4-Jun-2020 6:04a, Calcmandan@21:1/137.0 said to Mickey:

Thx for hanging out on my IRC server.

Sure. I keep connected via a quassel core instance on my gopher server
box.
I've yet to see a conversation though.

It's a pretty slow place. :-)

Mick

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