• Windows To Linux...

    From Bucko@21:4/131 to All on Sat Jul 4 11:08:34 2020
    Haven't posted in a while. I am thinking about moving my system from Windows
    to Linux, is there any pitfalls I need to be aware of? Is it as simple as Windows where you install on the platform then copy the original directory
    over the new one? Just trying to be ready for when I decide to make this move..

    Al

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Bucko on Sat Jul 4 15:23:17 2020
    Haven't posted in a while. I am thinking about moving my system from Windows to Linux, is there any pitfalls I need to be aware of? Is it as

    Any place there's a directory, you'll have to get rid of the C: bit, and reverse the slashes. This includes the file directories, which you'll have to modify individually (unlike items in message bases).

    It might also be a struggle to get Python working.

    I don't remember other difficulties, other than ones related to how I updated my version of Mystic as I did the switch.

    But I know there is a page or two on the web talking about the process, which helped me along.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131.1 to Adept on Sat Jul 4 21:03:31 2020


    On Jul 4th 6:06 pm Adept said...
    Haven't posted in a while. I am thinking about moving my system

    Any place there's a directory, you'll have to get rid of the C: bit, and reverse the slashes. This includes the file directories, which you'll have to modify individually (unlike items in message bases).

    It might also be a struggle to get Python working.

    I don't remember other difficulties, other than ones related to how I updated my version of Mystic as I did the switch.



    Thanks for the info.. I do appreciate it.. It's not in stone yet that I am even
    going to convert it over. Just tired of the Windows nonsense and feeling my way around changing things.. Thanks again for the info...

    Al


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    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Bucko's Den II (21:4/131.1)
  • From Havok@21:4/10 to Bucko on Sat Jul 4 21:45:00 2020
    Haven't posted in a while. I am thinking about moving my system from Windows to Linux, is there any pitfalls I need to be aware of? Is it as simple as Windows where you install on the platform then copy the
    original directory over the new one? Just trying to be ready for when I decide to make this move..


    Hello...

    The move it super simple, the only thing I noticed was getting the league
    door batch\bash file to work right. one bash file to run the door over to
    dosemu then a bash file to move the inbox network files to the dosemu inbound
    folder then a DOS batch file to process the packets and send them to a dosemu
    outbound folder to then move them to (with Mystic) filebox folder.

    About the only thing that changes is everything starts with ./mis ./mystic
    -cfg ./nodespy an unlike windblows everything from a command line.

    If you have all your ANSI made then your ready to go.

    What is the old saying, just do it!

    -Havok

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/06/11 (Linux/64)
    # Origin: Exotica BBS|exoticabbs.com:2333
    * Origin: fsxNet FTN<>QWK Gateway (21:4/10)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Havok on Sat Jul 4 23:22:59 2020
    On 04 Jul 2020, Havok said the following...


    Hello...

    The move it super simple, the only thing I noticed was getting the
    league door batch\bash file to work right. one bash file to run the door over to dosemu then a bash file to move the inbox network files to the dosemu inbound folder then a DOS batch file to process the packets and send them to a dosemu outbound folder to then move them to (with Mystic) filebox folder.

    About the only thing that changes is everything starts with ./mis ./mystic -cfg ./nodespy an unlike windblows everything from a command line.

    If you have all your ANSI made then your ready to go.

    What is the old saying, just do it!

    -Havok

    Guess, I will play with it some, The VM is built so it can't hurt getting it running on there.. Thanks for the info..

    Al

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From Ayster@21:1/999 to Bucko on Sun Jul 5 12:38:03 2020
    Guess, I will play with it some, The VM is built so it can't hurt
    getting it running on there.. Thanks for the info..

    Also worth mentioning that Linux files are case sensative, so 'MYSTIC' is different to 'mystic', and file permissions can be a bit complicated. I have set up Mystic on a raspberry Pi running RaspberryPI OS, which is based
    on Debian Linux by following Mystic Guy (Avon) videos, i'd say it would be worth running through his video series on the reapberry pi (theres only a
    few) to get an idea of what it would be like running on Linux.

    Cheers
    Ayster.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Starbase 291 (21:1/999)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Ayster on Sun Jul 5 08:42:48 2020
    On 05 Jul 2020, Ayster said the following...

    Also worth mentioning that Linux files are case sensative, so 'MYSTIC' is different to 'mystic', and file permissions can be a bit complicated. I have set up Mystic on a raspberry Pi running RaspberryPI OS, which is based on Debian Linux by following Mystic Guy (Avon) videos, i'd say it would be worth running through his video series on the reapberry pi (theres only a few) to get an idea of what it would be like running on Linux.


    Sounds like a plan.. I totally forgot about Avon's videos...

    Al

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Bucko on Sun Jul 5 20:58:34 2020
    Thanks for the info.. I do appreciate it.. It's not in stone yet that I
    am even going to convert it over. Just tired of the Windows nonsense and feeling my way around changing things.. Thanks again for the info...

    I did it because running a computer in my own space was no longer an option, and a Windows server for my needs was going to cost twice that of a Linux server.

    If they had been the same or very similar cost, I probably would've stuck
    with Windows in order to avoid the hassles.

    But the hassles weren't _all_ that bad (in hindsight, anyway), and as a side bonus, some of the scripts have worked better.

    But I'm saying this at the point when I've gotten my BBS to the point where
    it seems slightly more developed than when I had it on Windows.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Adept on Sun Jul 5 21:09:28 2020

    I did it because running a computer in my own space was no longer an option, and a Windows server for my needs was going to cost twice that
    of a Linux server.

    If they had been the same or very similar cost, I probably would've stuck with Windows in order to avoid the hassles.

    But the hassles weren't _all_ that bad (in hindsight, anyway), and as a side bonus, some of the scripts have worked better.

    But I'm saying this at the point when I've gotten my BBS to the point where it seems slightly more developed than when I had it on Windows.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

    I hear what you are saying. I am thinking about moving over to Linux because
    I can run the BBS on a VM which takes less resources and I can run 3 VM's
    with no issues or slow downs on 1 computer. Right now I had 3 on a i5 3.5 16 gigs ram and I felt a big slow down when the 3rd VM was added in Virtual Box.
    I am now running 2 Windows 10 VM's in QEMU with no slow downs at all, adding
    a 3rd I doubt would cause an issues.. That's my spiel..

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From pweck@21:3/113 to Ayster on Sun Jul 12 23:22:06 2020
    I am in thge process of configuring Mystic on Rasp Pi Linux. So far so good
    but not sure about getting SSH to work.I get the unable to access on ipv4.
    Any ideas? Thanks.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Pweck's Retreat BBS (21:3/113)
  • From bamageek@21:1/140 to pweck on Mon Jul 13 10:05:39 2020
    I am in thge process of configuring Mystic on Rasp Pi Linux. So far so good but not sure about getting SSH to work.I get the unable to access
    on ipv4. Any ideas?

    Couple of ideas here; First make sure your not running a firewall (I think raspberry Pi uses iptables.

    Also, and I'm thinking this may be it, The Raspberian operating system has a SSH server set up for remote access which may be using the same port as your BBS. I'm sorry I don't have access to my Pi at the moment to give you more specifics, but I think in the raspberry pi configuration you have to turn
    that off or change the port.

    I hope this helps!

    Dave

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Dave's BBS (21:1/140)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to pweck on Mon Jul 13 17:32:42 2020
    On 12 Jul 2020, pweck said the following...

    I am in thge process of configuring Mystic on Rasp Pi Linux. So far so good but not sure about getting SSH to work.I get the unable to access
    on ipv4. Any ideas? Thanks.

    First thing, did you install cryptlib? In the wiki its the article just underneath install and before configure... I'll grab it for you:

    http://wiki.mysticbbs.com/doku.php?id=cryptlib

    Have to start there...

    pAULIE42o
    .........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: American Pi BBS (21:2/150)
  • From pweck@21:3/113 to bamageek on Tue Jul 14 15:11:54 2020
    Yes! That was the fix. Thank you! Turned off SSH. So if I needed SSH outside
    of Mystic would I have to switch it back then?


    On 13 Jul 2020, bamageek said the following...


    I am in thge process of configuring Mystic on Rasp Pi Linux. So far s good but not sure about getting SSH to work.I get the unable to acces on ipv4. Any ideas?

    Couple of ideas here; First make sure your not running a firewall (I
    think raspberry Pi uses iptables.

    Also, and I'm thinking this may be it, The Raspberian operating system
    has a SSH server set up for remote access which may be using the same
    port as your BBS. I'm sorry I don't have access to my Pi at the moment
    to give you more specifics, but I think in the raspberry pi
    configuration you have to turn that off or change the port.

    I hope this helps!

    Dave

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/05/17 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Pweck's Retreat BBS (21:3/113)
  • From pweck@21:3/113 to paulie420 on Tue Jul 14 15:14:57 2020
    thanks for help. i do have cryptlib setup and found out through another user that it was the SSH for Pi needing to be turned off. thanks again!

    On 13 Jul
    2020, paulie420 said the following...
    On 12 Jul 2020, pweck said the following...

    I am in thge process of configuring Mystic on Rasp Pi Linux. So far s good but not sure about getting SSH to work.I get the unable to acces on ipv4. Any ideas? Thanks.

    First thing, did you install cryptlib? In the wiki its the article just underneath install and before configure... I'll grab it for you:

    http://wiki.mysticbbs.com/doku.php?id=cryptlib

    Have to start there...

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/05/17 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Pweck's Retreat BBS (21:3/113)
  • From Ayster@21:1/999 to pweck on Wed Jul 15 18:22:29 2020
    good but not sure about getting SSH to work.I get the unable to access
    on ipv4. Any ideas? Thanks.

    I've not enabled SSH on Mystic so not sure, Have you enabled SSH in the Raspberry PI OS settings. If so Mystic will be unable to use the port.

    Cheers
    Alan.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Starbase 291 (21:1/999)
  • From bamageek@21:1/140 to pweck on Wed Jul 15 13:07:53 2020
    Yes! That was the fix. Thank you! Turned off SSH. So if I needed SSH outside of Mystic would I have to switch it back then?

    Either that or set up a different port number for either the BBS or your SSH server. I'm not sure how your router/network is set up, but you might be able to set up an entry on your router's firewall to accept external traffic from port 22 and redirect it to your BBS on a different port (like 9022).

    In my environment, I run a Windows Server between my DSL router and my
    network & I use Routing and Remote Access to route trafice between the WAN
    and the LAN. My router is configured to send traffic from all the ports I
    need to the Server. In my ROuting and Remote Access NAT settings I then set
    up an entry for each incoming port (such as 22) and specify the outgoing address & port of the destination (such as 123.45.6.7 port 9022). Any traffic coming in from the outside port 22 goes to the BBS port 9022 at that point. Then, if you want to access your Raspberry Pi via SSH you can still access it directly via port 22.

    I hope this helps. I'm sure not all routers/firwalls can do this, but it
    works pretty good for me

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Dave's BBS (21:1/140)
  • From pweck@21:3/113 to Ayster on Wed Jul 15 13:21:52 2020
    Disabling SSH did it. Thanks

    On 15 Jul 2020, Ayster said the following...

    good but not sure about getting SSH to work.I get the unable to acces on ipv4. Any ideas? Thanks.

    I've not enabled SSH on Mystic so not sure, Have you enabled SSH in the Raspberry PI OS settings. If so Mystic will be unable to use the port.


    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/05/17 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Pweck's Retreat BBS (21:3/113)
  • From pweck@21:3/113 to bamageek on Wed Jul 15 19:48:50 2020
    Sounds complicated. Think i'll leave it as is for the moment. :)

    Yes! That was the fix. Thank you! Turned off SSH. So if I needed SSH outside of Mystic would I have to switch it back then?

    Either that or set up a different port number for either the BBS or your SSH server. I'm not sure how your router/network is set up, but you
    might be able to set up an entry on your router's firewall to accept external traffic from port 22 and redirect it to your BBS on a different port (like 9022).


    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/05/17 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Pweck's Retreat BBS (21:3/113)
  • From bamageek@21:1/140 to pweck on Thu Jul 16 13:49:08 2020
    Sounds complicated. Think i'll leave it as is for the moment. :)

    LOL yeah it does, or you can just configure a different SSH port for your Raspberry Pi by editing the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file. You'll just have to remember when you connect to it to specify the port.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Dave's BBS (21:1/140)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Ayster on Wed Jul 15 16:09:45 2020
    On 15 Jul 2020, Ayster said the following...

    good but not sure about getting SSH to work.I get the unable to acces on ipv4. Any ideas? Thanks.

    I've not enabled SSH on Mystic so not sure, Have you enabled SSH in the Raspberry PI OS settings. If so Mystic will be unable to use the port.

    Cheers
    Alan.

    Another great point.. I had everything setup perfectly, cryptlib and just -
    all - and realized {SMH} that I was CURRENTLY sshing into the mysticbox. Stupid.



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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: American Pi BBS (21:2/150)
  • From Rick Smith@21:1/190.1 to Bucko on Sat Jul 4 10:21:04 2020
    Greetings Bucko!

    04 Jul 20 11:08, you wrote to All about an urgent matter!:

    Haven't posted in a while. I am thinking about moving my system from Windows to Linux, is there any pitfalls I need to be aware of? Is it
    as simple as Windows where you install on the platform then copy the original directory over the new one? Just trying to be ready for when
    I decide to make this move..

    I have done it, you have to make sure you change all the directories, especially in your .ini files be sure to change from \ to / that hung me up at first. Other than that it was pretty simple no data lost or anything.



    ----
    Regards,


    Rick Smith (Nitro)

    ... Life is too short to take BBSing seriously
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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Rick Smith on Mon Aug 24 18:51:46 2020
    On 04 Jul 2020, Rick Smith said the following...

    Greetings Bucko!

    I have done it, you have to make sure you change all the directories, especially in your .ini files be sure to change from \ to / that hung me up at first. Other than that it was pretty simple no data lost or anything.



    Thanks for the info. I still haven't made up my mind. I want to learn Linux a lot better then I do now, I'm learning though.. LOL THanks again..

    Al

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to All on Mon Nov 15 13:54:03 2021
    Hey all.. Has anyone created a DOC file or can give me some tips, I am thinking about moving my board off of Windows, and over to Ubuntu. To many issues lately with Windows and I am tired of the bi-monthly update shut down.. Any info would be appreciated...

    Al

    ... What hair color do they put on the driver's licenses of bald men?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/06 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Bucko on Tue Nov 16 09:49:07 2021
    On 15 Nov 2021 at 01:54p, Bucko pondered and said...

    Hey all.. Has anyone created a DOC file or can give me some tips, I am thinking about moving my board off of Windows, and over to Ubuntu. To
    many issues lately with Windows and I am tired of the bi-monthly update shut down.. Any info would be appreciated...

    there's some info on the wiki about shifting from Windows to Linux (Rpi etc.) that's helpful.

    Are you new to Linux (like I have been) or a seasoned pro ;-)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/06 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Avon on Mon Nov 15 15:55:17 2021
    On 16 Nov 2021, Avon said the following...


    there's some info on the wiki about shifting from Windows to Linux (Rpi etc.) that's helpful.

    Are you new to Linux (like I have been) or a seasoned pro ;-)


    Thanks bud.. I am in the middle, been playing with it for a little over a year and have been enjoying it.. Just trying to move everything including my daily driver over to Ubuntu now.. If I can get KVM to mimic my 3 screens which I believe it will do, I will be set... LOL

    Al

    ... Everyone smiles in the same language.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/06 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Bucko on Tue Nov 16 10:01:11 2021
    On 15 Nov 2021 at 03:55p, Bucko pondered and said...

    Thanks bud.. I am in the middle, been playing with it for a little over
    a year and have been enjoying it.. Just trying to move everything including my daily driver over to Ubuntu now.. If I can get KVM to mimic my 3 screens which I believe it will do, I will be set... LOL

    Yeah I have been using it on/off for some years but the last year made the switch over to it for Agency and the HUBs I run. Still learning and get caught up with permissions stuff still.. the joys :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/06 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Avon on Mon Nov 15 20:03:37 2021
    On 16 Nov 2021, Avon said the following...


    Yeah I have been using it on/off for some years but the last year made
    the switch over to it for Agency and the HUBs I run. Still learning and get caught up with permissions stuff still.. the joys :)


    My son who has been not necessarily pushing me but helping me keeps telling me Google is your best friend! LOL He is right though.. Permissions drive me crazy also. Like you I am still learning but have 3 computers already converted and 2 more to go, these are my BBS computers. Setting up a dry run in a VM of Mystic install then bringing my board over to it, if it goes well the VM can be converted from VMWare to KVM very easily, and I will shut down the Windows VM and replace it with the Ubuntu version.. Seems like a good project over the next week or 2... :) At least until I start my daily driver conversion to see if I like it or not as a daily use Computer..

    AL

    ... A black cat crossing your path signifies that the animal is going somewhere

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/06 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Bucko on Mon Nov 15 16:58:00 2021
    Hey all.. Has anyone created a DOC file or can give me some tips, I am thinking about moving my board off of Windows, and over to Ubuntu. To
    many issues lately with Windows and I am tired of the bi-monthly update shut down.. Any info would be appreciated...

    Al

    I wrote someone a few tips once, but I don't have a DOC or HOW-TO. There is usually Linux-specfic BBS Software install wikis - for Mystic and Synchronet, anyway...

    But I'd certainly be willing to help. Dependant on what type of machine/system you'd like to build, Ubuntu Server or Ubuntu Desktop might be a good choice. If yer gonna run one computer on Linux and want a GUI/desktop manager, some other choices might be worth looking into.

    Theres a ton of Linux help on the FTNs, too... several of us help eachother out a ton... I'm amatuer to intermediate and would be willing to answer any questions I might know answers to. :P

    What type of system do you wanna build? Like - if it were just a small Linux cloud server, you'd surely pick some lighter non-GUI distro.... do you know yer set on Ubuntu? Desktop, Server or you dunno yet?



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    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/10/25 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Avon on Mon Nov 15 16:59:47 2021
    Yeah I have been using it on/off for some years but the last year made
    the switch over to it for Agency and the HUBs I run. Still learning and get caught up with permissions stuff still.. the joys :)

    Tee, hee - funny how we all struggle with certain hurdles when learning/switching to nix. :P I'm learning more and more bash scripting ATM - and can barely solve my intermediate permissions issues. Got the NAS all ironed out; which was a..... :P



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/10/25 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to paulie420 on Mon Nov 15 21:37:32 2021
    On 15 Nov 2021, paulie420 said the following...

    I wrote someone a few tips once, but I don't have a DOC or HOW-TO. There is usually Linux-specfic BBS Software install wikis - for Mystic and Synchronet, anyway...

    But I'd certainly be willing to help. Dependant on what type of machine/system you'd like to build, Ubuntu Server or Ubuntu Desktop
    might be a good choice. If yer gonna run one computer on Linux and want
    a GUI/desktop manager, some other choices might be worth looking into.


    Just set up a VM with Ubuntu Desktop, already have Mystic running in it, I considered Mint as it is a light setup, but no need for lightness while running Mystic, at least in my opinion.. LOL the wikis are my friends! LOL

    Theres a ton of Linux help on the FTNs, too... several of us help eachother out a ton... I'm amatuer to intermediate and would be willing
    to answer any questions I might know answers to. :P

    What type of system do you wanna build? Like - if it were just a small Linux cloud server, you'd surely pick some lighter non-GUI distro.... do you know yer set on Ubuntu? Desktop, Server or you dunno yet?


    System is already done, it's a VM with Ubuntu Desktop. We'll see how things go, right now it is going really easy.. I will rebuild the desktop tomorrow and reinstall completely then copy my current system on top of it and convert all of the paths etc. Once all that is done, I will work on pulling in DoorParty and MRC etc with the outside programs that stuff runs.. Shouldn't be hard, if I can get a few hours to myself I can have it running in a few hours I think.. The fun part will come in 2 weeks when I toss the new 1TB SSD in my daily driver, and install Ubuntu and KVM and if KVM will allow me to run 3 monitors in a Windows VM (you know there at least needs to be some Windows support wine is nice but is a pain in the ass to get everything to run in it) lol if that works, I will run Ubuntu as my daily driver permanently..

    Al

    ... The person who snores the loudest will fall asleep first

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/06 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to paulie420 on Mon Nov 15 21:38:48 2021
    On 15 Nov 2021, paulie420 said the following...


    Tee, hee - funny how we all struggle with certain hurdles when learning/switching to nix. :P I'm learning more and more bash scripting ATM - and can barely solve my intermediate permissions issues. Got the
    NAS all ironed out; which was a..... :P

    I took the easy way out, I installed Xpenology (Synology software) on a PC running Ubuntu Server, and set it up, then for Xmas last year made the family buy me a real Synology NAS.. No set up needed, just turn it on answer a bunch of questions and let it go..

    ... Tech support is just a busy signal away

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/06 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Bucko on Tue Nov 16 16:53:57 2021
    if
    that works, I will run Ubuntu as my daily driver permanently..

    It sounds like you have a good plan and I think it will all work out OK. I use ProxMox for my VMs, but if your machines can handle all the VMs you need I think you'll get happy with that setup.

    Nice hearing how yer skinning the cat.



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/10/25 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to paulie420 on Wed Nov 17 11:53:42 2021
    On 16 Nov 2021, paulie420 said the following...


    It sounds like you have a good plan and I think it will all work out OK.
    I use ProxMox for my VMs, but if your machines can handle all the VMs
    you need I think you'll get happy with that setup.

    Nice hearing how yer skinning the cat.


    Yea it works fine for now, although I am starting to play with ProxMox myself. If I see that it does it better, which I think it will. I will probably move over to that.. We'll see.. Built the base of my new Mystic VM last night, got that all set up the way I want it, just have to get in touch with Maskreet about the DoorParty files to see how to get that set up with Linux. SHouldn't be hard. Other then that the Mystic conversion should be cake..

    Al

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@21:1/158 to Bucko on Sun Nov 21 01:35:05 2021
    project over the next week or 2... :) At least until I start my daily driver conversion to see if I like it or not as a daily use Computer..

    Have you had any thoughts yet on which distro you'd like to use as your daily driver? The most obvious I think would be Ubuntu 20.04 LTS as it's "mostly" widely supportive of newer users, kinda forgiving, but some of the software available is a little older due to being more stable vs bleeding edge.

    If you have no special expectations on desktop environment, compositor, display manager etc etc, Ubuntu would probably be a good choice, and once you've daily driven for a good few years, you'll have the experience under your belt to know where to turn if you decide to mix it up.

    I use Ubuntu 20.04 on my main desktop PC, and I run Arch on my laptop. I use Ubuntu because its more or less adequate for everything I need, I installed a tiling window manager which I use instead of the standard desktop environment, called i3-gaps. I can't stand desktop environments lol. I spend most of my days in the terminal, so a twm suites me as I can have many terminals open or other windows/apps and they automatically lay out nicely and I rarely touch my mouse lol. Everything is shortcut driven.

    You should be able to download a few ISO's of various distros and shove them on a USB stick(s) and live boot many to play without having to even install, which is good to test hardware out like sound and network etc.

    If you like the look and feel of windows but just want linux, then maybe look at ZorinOS or ElementaryOS (which is a little more MacOS X like).

    Eh, that's my 2 pence worth, as they say in the interwebs, your mileage may vary. Best of luck choosing, and using. Hopefully you'll discover it to be a refreshing new start.

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    |07── |08[|10eml|08] |15ml@erb.pw |07── |08[|10web|08] |15www.erb.pw |07───┐ |07── |08[|09fsx|08] |1521:1/158 |07── |08[|11tqw|08] |151337:1/101 |07┬──┘ |07── |08[|12rtn|08] |1580:774/81 |07─┬ |08[|14fdn|08] |152:250/5 |07───┘
    |07── |08[|10ark|08] |1510:104/2 |07─┘

    ... A book in the hand is worth two on the shelf!

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to MeaTLoTioN on Sat Nov 20 20:47:48 2021
    On 21 Nov 2021, MeaTLoTioN said the following...


    Have you had any thoughts yet on which distro you'd like to use as your daily driver? The most obvious I think would be Ubuntu 20.04 LTS as it's "mostly" widely supportive of newer users, kinda forgiving, but some of the software available is a little older due to being more stable vs bleeding edge.

    Actually, yes, I am using Ubuntu 20.04LTS. I have been using that on other setups now for close to a year.. I find it simple and easy to use..


    If you have no special expectations on desktop environment, compositor, display manager etc etc, Ubuntu would probably be a good choice, and
    once you've daily driven for a good few years, you'll have the
    experience under your belt to know where to turn if you decide to mix it up.

    I have played with Fedora, didn't like it to much. Played with Debian which as you know Ubuntu is a derivative of, I like that one.. Eventually I will move pretty much everything over to Debian.

    I use Ubuntu 20.04 on my main desktop PC, and I run Arch on my laptop. I use Ubuntu because its more or less adequate for everything I need, I installed a tiling window manager which I use instead of the standard desktop environment, called i3-gaps. I can't stand desktop environments lol. I spend most of my days in the terminal, so a twm suites me as I
    can have many terminals open or other windows/apps and they
    automatically lay out nicely and I rarely touch my mouse lol. Everything is shortcut driven.

    I will check out i3-gaps, I have so many VM's setup of Ubuntu and other distros it's getting to where I might need to delete some soon.. LOL Just dialed one up for Talisman BBS and have been playing around with that a little..

    You should be able to download a few ISO's of various distros and shove them on a USB stick(s) and live boot many to play without having to even install, which is good to test hardware out like sound and network etc.

    If you like the look and feel of windows but just want linux, then maybe look at ZorinOS or ElementaryOS (which is a little more MacOS X like).

    Eh, that's my 2 pence worth, as they say in the interwebs, your mileage may vary. Best of luck choosing, and using. Hopefully you'll discover it to be a refreshing new start.


    LOL I am done with Windows, well I say that now, but when I get my Daily driver full time on it and I start playing with it and having issues, I will probably go back to Windows.. LOL Right now though, Mystic is coming along on the conversion, trying to get all of the extras working first, DoorParty, BBSLink, all of my little windows scripts I run for copying and deleting logs etc, once that is all done I will copy my working Mystic board over to it and toss it online.. I think it is going well.. :)

    Thanks for the info..

    AL

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Bucko on Sun Nov 21 15:38:36 2021
    I have played with Fedora, didn't like it to much. Played with Debian which as you know Ubuntu is a derivative of, I like that one..
    Eventually I will move pretty much everything over to Debian.

    While I know it is resource heavy - I really like GNOME 40. With extensions, I can make it do all the THINGS I want, and it has really nice gestures - especially with a couple extensions that make those even better...

    I know I could design a system that is perfect, while using way less resources, but I am liking not having to ATM. :P

    I am sacrilegious and use Arch, with GNOME on top. Works for me, best of both worlds... I have 32GB of RAM, so I guess I'm allowed to make these decisions... lol.



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  • From DanielLoshi@21:1/183 to Bucko on Mon Aug 21 04:10:36 2023
    It's great to see your interest in transitioning from Windows to Linux! While the thread is a couple of years old, the idea of moving to Linux remains relevant. Migrating systems is an exciting step, and while the process isn't exactly like copying directories, it's not overly complicated either.
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  • From candycane@21:4/141 to DanielLoshi on Mon Aug 21 08:57:37 2023
    Re: Windows To Linux...
    By: DanielLoshi to Bucko on Mon Aug 21 2023 04:10 am

    It's great to see your interest in transitioning from Windows to Linux!

    Cheers! Welcome to the linux family!

    candycane

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  • From DanielLoshi@21:1/183 to Bucko on Wed Aug 30 14:06:41 2023

    It's great to see your interest in transitioning from Windows to Linux! While the thread is a couple of years old, the idea of moving to Linux remains relevant. Migrating systems is an exciting step, and while the process isn't exactly like copying directories, it's not overly complicated either.



    Keep in mind that software compatibility might differ, so exploring Linux alternatives for your favorite applications is a smart move.
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  • From candycane@21:1/172 to DanielLoshi on Thu Aug 31 02:31:08 2023
    Keep in mind that software compatibility might differ, so exploring Linux alternatives for your favorite applications is a smart move.

    Yeah, and don't bother trying to install any Adobe products. It will not work.

    Speaking of operating systems, if you ever find yourself in need of a Windows 10 key at an affordable price, you might find this windows 10
    key cheap

    Well, win keys are not as important as they used to be..

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