• Netmail

    From apam@21:1/126 to ALL on Tue Aug 11 21:54:27 2020
    Hi

    I sent a message to garycrunk via netmail. I didn't get a reply, because
    for some reason when you reply to my message on Another f-ing bbs, it
    uses 21:4/100 as the reply address.

    Looking at the kludges of my netmail they all look right, but why would
    mystic prompt you for the return address and autofill it with something
    other than the origin address?

    I did notice, that my address is 21:1/126 and gary's is 21:4/126.. ie the
    same node number (just different nets).

    Also the net mail I sent was routed, so I guess technically it came from 21:4/100

    Hmm.

    Andrew


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  • From apam@21:4/126 to apam on Tue Aug 11 05:34:54 2020
    Never mind. I figured it out. Mystic expects a MSGID kludge in netmail.

    Andrew

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to apam on Tue Aug 11 12:58:51 2020
    Re: Re: Netmail
    By: apam to apam on Tue Aug 11 2020 05:34 am

    Never mind. I figured it out. Mystic expects a MSGID kludge in netmail.

    That's interesting, it seems mystic is using the @MSGID to address replies
    in netmail?

    I've reported the issue of netmail having the wrong from address before and I have seen others report it also. It only happens to netmail that was routed.

    g00r00 has looked at it but hasn't yet figured out a better way to deal with this.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@21:4/106.2 to All on Wed Oct 14 08:39:47 2020
    Hello All,

    I've just been looking over my Mystic BBS after a time. Can somebody send me a netmail? I wondering if anything has changed in the way it displays the from address and how it addresses a reply.

    I'm also wondering about the web server. I have it enabled currently but I just get an error 404, page not found error although I do have an index.html in the webroot directory. Does anyone have that working?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Argos@21:1/203 to Al on Wed Oct 14 08:24:20 2020

    Hello All,

    I've just been looking over my Mystic BBS after a time. Can somebody
    send me a netmail? I wondering if anything has changed in the way it displays the from address and how it addresses a reply.

    I'm also wondering about the web server. I have it enabled currently but
    I just get an error 404, page not found error although I do have an index.html in the webroot directory. Does anyone have that working?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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    Al,
    I am a little confused. When I tried to send you a netmail and did a look
    up of Equinox BBS, nothing showed up in the node list by that name. So I did
    a search by node number 21:4/106 and the below information showed up. As you notice your message post tag line is showing something completely different.

    In short, your tag is showing Equinox BBS at 21:4/106 , but in the node
    browser no such BBS name exists.

    Address: 21:4/106
    System Name: The Rusty Mailbox BBS
    Location: Penticton CAN
    Operator: Alan Ianson
    Phone: -Unpublished-
    Internet: trmb.ca

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  • From Al@21:4/106.2 to Argos on Wed Oct 14 13:06:20 2020
    On 14 Oct 2020, Argos said the following...

    I am a little confused. When I tried to send you a netmail and did a look up of Equinox BBS, nothing showed up in the node list by that name. So I did a search by node number 21:4/106 and the below information showed up. As you notice your message post tag line is showing something completely different.

    My node is 21:4/106 and I have an MBSE BBS setup that handles that.

    In short, your tag is showing Equinox BBS at 21:4/106 , but in the node browser no such BBS name exists.

    Address: 21:4/106
    System Name: The Rusty Mailbox BBS
    Location: Penticton CAN
    Operator: Alan Ianson
    Phone: -Unpublished-
    Internet: trmb.ca

    Yep, that is my node. I am looking for a netmail to 21:4/106.2, that's the address of my Mystic BBS that I want to check on. It'll travel the net to my node (up above there) and then be directed from there to 21:4/106.2 so I'll be able to read it on my Mystic BBS. In a nutshell, my node feeds my point netmail, echomail and files, it's a different setup than my main node.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From alterego@21:2/116 to Al on Thu Oct 15 08:39:44 2020
    Re: Netmail
    By: Al to All on Wed Oct 14 2020 08:39 am

    I've just been looking over my Mystic BBS after a time. Can somebody send me a netmail? I wondering if anything has changed in the way it displays the from address and how it addresses a reply.

    I sent you one last night - hopefully you got it.

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  • From Al@21:4/106.2 to alterego on Wed Oct 14 22:19:00 2020
    On 15 Oct 2020, alterego said the following...

    I've just been looking over my Mystic BBS after a time. Can somebody me a netmail? I wondering if anything has changed in the way it displ the from address and how it addresses a reply.

    I sent you one last night - hopefully you got it.

    Nothing yet but thanks, I'll keep an eye out.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From alterego@21:2/116 to Al on Thu Oct 15 09:47:18 2020
    Re: Netmail
    By: Al to alterego on Wed Oct 14 2020 10:19 pm

    I sent you one last night - hopefully you got it.
    Nothing yet but thanks, I'll keep an eye out.

    Hmm.. you should have got it by now - unless its in quaranteen? :)

    2020-10-14 22:05:18 Created NetMail (1.msg) from Deon George (21:2/116) to Al (21:4/106.2), attr: 0181, subject: Netmail
    2020-10-14 22:05:18 Packing NetMail (1.msg) from Deon George (21:2/116) to Al (21:4/106.2), attr: 0181, subject: Netmail
    2020-10-14 22:05:18 Routing NetMail (1.msg) to 21:2/100
    2020-10-14 22:05:18 SBBSecho (PID 26393) exiting with error level 0, NetMail(0 imported, 1 exported, 1 packed)

    Oct 14 22:05:20 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Attempting callout for 21:2/100@fsxnet, file: /opt/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/00020064.cut
    Oct 14 22:05:20 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT JSBinkP/1.123 callout to 21:2/100@fsxnet started
    Oct 14 22:05:20 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Connecting to 21:2/100@fsxnet at error404bbs.ddns.net:24555
    Oct 14 22:05:24 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Peer version: Mystic/1.12A46 binkp/1.0
    Oct 14 22:05:24 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Authentication successful: secure
    Oct 14 22:05:24 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Sending file: /opt/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/00020064.cut (0.7KB)
    Oct 14 22:05:24 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Sent file: /opt/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/00020064.cut (0.7KB)
    Oct 14 22:05:24 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT We got an M_EOB, but there are still 1 files pending M_GOT
    Oct 14 22:05:24 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Deleted file: /opt/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/00020064.cut

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  • From Al@21:4/106.2 to alterego on Wed Oct 14 22:54:29 2020
    On 15 Oct 2020, alterego said the following...

    Nothing yet but thanks, I'll keep an eye out.

    Hmm.. you should have got it by now - unless its in quaranteen? :)

    Your logs indicate it went to 21:2/100. Something has happened between here and there.. not exactly sure what..

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@21:4/106.2 to alterego on Thu Oct 15 00:14:44 2020
    On 15 Oct 2020, alterego said the following...

    Nothing yet but thanks, I'll keep an eye out.

    Hmm.. you should have got it by now - unless its in quaranteen? :)

    I found it. It's bouncing back and forth between 21:4/106 and 21:4/106.2. It's up to 13K of via lines now. ;)

    I'll have to see if I can figure out why that is happening.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Al on Fri Oct 16 11:46:55 2020
    On 14 Oct 2020 at 10:19p, Al pondered and said...

    Nothing yet but thanks, I'll keep an eye out.

    Have also belatedly sent you a reply to a test netmail you sent me :)

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to Avon on Thu Oct 15 17:15:44 2020
    Nothing yet but thanks, I'll keep an eye out.

    Have also belatedly sent you a reply to a test netmail you sent me :)

    Still nothing here. I deleted one that never got tossed into the message base, it just kept going back and forth between 4/106 and 4/106.2. Looking at Mystic's log, Mystic seemed to think the message was to 1/186 and so sent it back to 4/104 and it would get sent back to 4/106.2 again.

    I'll try to figure out what's up there.

    I do send netmail back and forth between the two, areafix and filefix without issue so I'm not sure what going on.

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  • From Jeff Smith@21:1/128 to Al on Wed Oct 14 13:46:56 2020
    Hello Al,

    I'm also wondering about the web server. I have it enabled currently but I jus >get an error 404, page not found error although I do have an index.html in the
    webroot directory. Does anyone have that working?

    The actual Mystic webroot here is /home/mystic/webroot/www/index.html

    There should actually be a /www and a /cfg directory under /mystic with /www being the directory that Mystic serves your html files from. The /cfg directory as I understand it is for future use.

    Jeff

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  • From Pasquale Monti@21:2/167 to All on Sat Jul 23 18:33:03 2022

    Hello everybody!

    Hi everyone, sorry for my petulant question but I still have the same problem: how to configure netmail areas?
    Can I configure two netmail areas one for each network?

    Thanks for your help




    Pasquale


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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to Pasquale Monti on Sat Jul 23 12:49:20 2022
    Hello Pasquale,


    Hi everyone, sorry for my petulant question but I still have the same problem: how to configure netmail areas? Can I configure two netmail
    areas one for each network?

    If you want a netmail base per net create them and add the AKA to use to the "Net Address" in the msg areas config.

    If you leave the "Net Address" to the default (0:0/0) the netmail area will work for all you AKA's and nets.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Pasquale Monti@21:2/167 to Al on Sun Jul 31 13:41:16 2022

    Hello Al!

    23 Jul 22 12:49, you wrote to me:

    Hello Pasquale,


    Hi everyone, sorry for my petulant question but I still have the
    same
    problem: how to configure netmail areas? Can I configure two
    netmail areas one for each network?

    If you want a netmail base per net create them and add the AKA to use
    to the "Net Address" in the msg areas config.

    If you leave the "Net Address" to the default (0:0/0) the netmail area will work for all you AKA's and nets.


    Thanks for the help but my problem is different; I read messages from golded and the netmails I write there for some reason do not arrive even though they are sent. I'm afraid the problem is in the configuration of the golded area generated by mystic.

    Best Regards


    Pasquale


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  • From pos@21:1/233 to All on Thu Feb 9 07:15:13 2023
    Hi,

    Does anyone have small writeup on how to set up Mystic if I cant just one Netmail area (and not one for each FTN)?

    Thanks,
    Per

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to pos on Thu Feb 9 02:47:48 2023
    Does anyone have small writeup on how to set up Mystic if I cant just one Netmail area (and not one for each FTN)?

    You can do it either way, whatever works best for you.

    If you want to use a single netmail area don't set an AKA.

    If you want a netmail area per AKA set your AKA for each area. You'll need a netmail base for each zone you are in.

    I just use one netmail area.

    There should be no export to nodes in your netmail base.

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  • From pos@21:1/233 to Al on Thu Feb 9 14:14:05 2023
    |02On |1009 Feb 2023|02, |10Al |02said the following...

    Does anyone have small writeup on how to set up Mystic if I cant just on Netmail area (and not one for each FTN)?

    You can do it either way, whatever works best for you.

    If you want to use a single netmail area don't set an AKA.

    If you want a netmail area per AKA set your AKA for each area. You'll
    need a netmail base for each zone you are in.

    I just use one netmail area.

    There should be no export to nodes in your netmail base.

    Thanks. I'd like to go with just one netmail area. But when I set this up, I made several, is there a way to move those messages into my single netmail area?

    pos

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to pos on Thu Feb 9 09:17:48 2023
    Thanks. I'd like to go with just one netmail area. But when I set this up, I made several, is there a way to move those messages into my single netmail area?

    I'm not sure if Mystic can do this but GoldED can.

    Mutil has an option to export the message areas to a format golded can import so that might work for you.

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to pos on Thu Feb 9 13:04:52 2023
    On 09 Feb 2023, pos said the following...

    Hi,

    Does anyone have small writeup on how to set up Mystic if I cant just one Netmail area (and not one for each FTN)?

    Thanks,
    Per

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    Here's a snippet that I was given that helped me get my netmail into one area:

    You're running the latest version, so there's no issue with one netmail area whatsoever. Since it's not letting me copy/paste, I can try to give you a short version of my netmail area's config:

    Name: Netmail
    Base Type: Netmail
    Newsgroup: Netmail
    QWK Name: NETMAIL
    Echo Tag: NETMAIL
    FIle Name: netmail
    Path: /home/user/mystic/msgs
    List ACS: s20(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)
    Read ACS: s20(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)
    Post ACS: s20(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)
    Sysop ACS: s255(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)

    Net Address: 0:0/0 (Local Address)
    Export To: 3 node(s)

    That should get you started. Take note on the last one above, you're exporting to every uplink's individual address for each network with AKA matching. And list, read, post, and sysop ACS should include every group that is an echomail network that includes a netmail area (g1 here is my Local areas, so not needed).

    The key for me was to have the "group access" in the message area for netmail set to all of the groups that are going to have netmail (ie. s255(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)"

    Let me know if you need anything else.

    ogg
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  • From Mike Dippel@21:4/176 to ogg on Thu Feb 9 15:14:04 2023
    On 2/9/2023 1:10 PM, ogg wrote to pos:

    Hi,

    Does anyone have small writeup on how to set up Mystic if I cant just one
    Netmail area (and not one for each FTN)?

    Thanks,
    Per

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    Here's a snippet that I was given that helped me get my netmail into one area:

    You're running the latest version, so there's no issue with one netmail area whatsoever. Since it's not letting me copy/paste, I can try to give you a short
    version of my netmail area's config:

    Name: Netmail
    Base Type: Netmail
    Newsgroup: Netmail
    QWK Name: NETMAIL
    Echo Tag: NETMAIL
    FIle Name: netmail
    Path: /home/user/mystic/msgs
    List ACS: s20(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)
    Read ACS: s20(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)
    Post ACS: s20(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)
    Sysop ACS: s255(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)

    Net Address: 0:0/0 (Local Address)
    Export To: 3 node(s)

    That should get you started. Take note on the last one above, you're exporting
    to every uplink's individual address for each network with AKA matching. And list, read, post, and sysop ACS should include every group that is an echomail
    network that includes a netmail area (g1 here is my Local areas, so not needed).

    The key for me was to have the "group access" in the message area for netmail
    set to all of the groups that are going to have netmail (ie. s255(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)"

    Let me know if you need anything else.

    ogg
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    Very informative, sir. Thanks for that.

    Mike Dippel

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  • From pos@21:1/233 to Al on Sat Feb 11 04:53:25 2023
    |02On |1009 Feb 2023|02, |10Al |02said the following...
    Thanks. I'd like to go with just one netmail area. But when I set this u made several, is there a way to move those messages into my single netma area?

    I'm not sure if Mystic can do this but GoldED can.

    Mutil has an option to export the message areas to a format golded can import so that might work for you.

    Seems it's not a major problem; when I follow the instructions from ogg, setting the groups in the access levels they seem to move "automatically". Nice.

    pos

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  • From pos@21:1/233 to ogg on Sat Feb 11 04:57:14 2023
    |02On |1009 Feb 2023|02, |10ogg |02said the following...
    On 09 Feb 2023, pos said the following...
    Hi,
    Does anyone have small writeup on how to set up Mystic if I cant just Netmail area (and not one for each FTN)?
    Here's a snippet that I was given that helped me get my netmail into one area:

    You're running the latest version, so there's no issue with one netmail area whatsoever. Since it's not letting me copy/paste, I can try to give you a short version of my netmail area's config:
    [...snip...]
    Great! Thank you very much for the writeup!

    pos

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to pos on Fri Feb 10 22:09:12 2023
    Great! Thank you very much for the writeup!

    pos

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    Just glad I could pass on the help I received! That's what makes this forum great!

    ogg
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