Hi all,
i tried posting this before but my echo seems to have disappeared.
so i was going to repost it again....

so far, after tinkering around with the menu settings, i was able to get the text menu to print in the middle of the ANSI file, on "main". the problem is, now the text field that has no text in it is extending to the edge of the screen and blacking out the ANSI file in that area. below is the code that i
am using in the menu editor:

|CR|[X05|[Y08|09(|10M|) |03Messages

So i have read through the entire display codes document for a code to set
teh length of the text field but am not seeing anything that looks like it applies... does anyone know of a setting either to set the length of the
field, or is there something wrong with the code above that i am not seeing?

Thanks
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|CR|[X05|[Y08(M|) Messages

it looks like it did not put in the full command there. lets try again lol

|CR|[X05|[Y08|09(|10M|09) |03Messages
- hopefully this will post correctly ....

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|CR|[X05|[Y08(M|) Messages

Nope! it did not post correctly again... let me see if i can put it in qotations

"|CR|[X05|[Y08|09(|10M|09) |03Messages"
hopefully this time it will post properly.

Thanks
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"|CR|[X05|[Y08(M) Messages"

ok so that didnt do it either ok so this is how i am going to do it
FYI: ! = |

!CR![X05![Y08!09(!10M!09) !03Messages
i think this should work now

Thanks
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On 14 Apr 2021, 08:07p, gcubebuddy said the following...

it looks like it did not put in the full command there. lets try again
lol

|CR|[X05|[Y08(M) Messages
- hopefully this will post correctly ....

Probably not... :)

The problem with posting pipe codes, is Mystic will try to translate them in the message base as well. The best way to post them in a message is to replace the pipe code (|) with another character, or <pipe>.

I believe this issue has been fixed in one of the A47 pre-releases. There was something in the whatsnew file in reference to text being printing to the screen on top of an ANSI.

+ When displaying internally generated menu commands, Mystic will now draw
the commands in a non-destructive mode when ANSI is enabled. This means
the location of menu commands will always be the same and if you display
an ANSI menu (displayed using the header) you can leave a space for the
commands and Mystic will automatically populate them without overwriting
the ANSI.

I think Mystic was automatically trying to write 255 characters of text to the screen, even though the text was a lot shorter of a string.


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On 04/14/2021 7:13 pm gcubebuddy said...

the text menu to print in the middle of the ANSI file, on "main". the problem is, now the text field that has no text in it is extending to the edge of the screen and blacking out the ANSI file in that area. below is like it applies... does anyone know of a setting either to set the length of the field, or is there something wrong with the code above that i am not seeing?

use padding pipe prior to the MCI code {pipe}$(R)ight or (L)eft #spaces
so something like (using an "I" as the pipe for clarification)
I$R30IUN would use 30 characters to display user name and no more.
When I drew my ansis on moebius, I could slect the area of the screen where I was going to put my MCI to the edge of my ansi art and see at the bottom of moebius how many spaces that was, and I would pad using that number

Nuke

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use padding pipe prior to the MCI code {pipe}$(R)ight or (L)eft #spaces
so something like (using an "I" as the pipe for clarification)
I$R30IUN would use 30 characters to display user name and no more.

Hi thanks for the info! so when you are adding the code, are you doing it on the ANSI or in the the menu editor?

Thanks
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I believe this issue has been fixed in one of the A47 pre-releases.
There was something in the whatsnew file in reference to text being printing to the screen on top of an ANSI.
+ When displaying internally generated menu commands, Mystic will now draw the commands in a non-destructive mode when ANSI is enabled. This means the location of menu commands will always be the same and if you display an ANSI menu (displayed using the header) you can leave a space for the commands and Mystic will automatically populate them without overwriting the ANSI.
I think Mystic was automatically trying to write 255 characters of text
to the screen, even though the text was a lot shorter of a string.

interesting, is there a new update to mystic coming out? i have never done an update install for mystic before... does it work pretty good? i'm a bit
nervous about doing an update install, as i am not sure how well it works.

thanks for the info about the ANSI / text issue.

Thanks
- Gamecube Buddy

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On 04/15/2021 1:29 pm gcubebuddy said...

Hi thanks for the info! so when you are adding the code, are you doing it on the ANSI or in the the menu editor?

On the ansi :-)

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On 04/15/2021 2:42 pm Nuke said...

Hi thanks for the info! so when you are adding the code, are
you doing it on the ANSI or in the the menu editor?

On the ansi :-)

Actually, either ANSI or prompt will work...

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Re: re: mystic theme part 2
By: gcubebuddy to Black Panther on Thu Apr 15 2021 01:44 pm

interesting, is there a new update to mystic coming out?

Yes, there will likely be an A47 update before too long. Only g00r00 could say when that will be. There will also likely be an 1.12 release but again only g00r00 could say when. I don't know what he wants to accomplish for that release.

i have never done an update install for mystic before... does it work pretty good? i'm a bit nervous about doing an update install, as i am not sure how well it works.

I run the 1.12 prealphs's myself and find they work well. That is an in progress thing though and there can be problems. When problems do show up the fix always follows closely behind.

If you do run the prealpha's it's a good idea to keep up upto date with g00r00's releases. That can mean a lot of updates so you need to be prepared for that.

An update is usually as simple as running..

./install replace /mystic <- adjust for your setup

There can be more steps but they are always outlined in the upgrade.txt in every new release.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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I run the 1.12 prealphs's myself and find they work well. That is an in progress thing though and there can be problems. When problems do show
up the fix always follows closely behind.
If you do run the prealpha's it's a good idea to keep up upto date with g00r00's releases. That can mean a lot of updates so you need to be prepared for that.
An update is usually as simple as running..
./install replace /mystic <- adjust for your setup
There can be more steps but they are always outlined in the upgrade.txt
in every new release.
Ttyl :-),
Al

ok, so for the final release, or the stable version, when does that usually come out? I was wanting to kind of follow what is stable. That way there is a less of a chance of my BBS blowing up. is the stable version usually hosted
off the mysticbbs.com site?

Thanks
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Re: re: mystic theme part 2
By: gcubebuddy to Al on Fri Apr 16 2021 12:07 pm

ok, so for the final release, or the stable version, when does that usually come out?

There is no schedule that I know of. The releases happen when g00r00 has done what he wanted to do. The last stable release was 1.11, that was about 5 years ago.

The alpha releases like A46 are a bit more frequent when they are ready. A46 is about 6 months old.

I was wanting to kind of follow what is stable. That way there is a less of a chance of my BBS blowing up.

Nothing wrong with that. g00r00 makes the alphas and prealphas available to everyone but you can run whatever you are comfortable with.

is the stable version usually hosted off the mysticbbs.com site?

Yes, all the releases of Mystic are available at mysticbbs.com in the download directory, some older stuff in the old directory and prealphas in the prealpha directory.

http://mysticbbs.com/downloads/

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On 16 Apr 2021, gcubebuddy said the following...

ok, so for the final release, or the stable version, when does that usually come out? I was wanting to kind of follow what is stable. That
way there is a less of a chance of my BBS blowing up. is the stable version usually hosted off the mysticbbs.com site?

Everything is hosted off the mysticbbs.com site, Release in the main directory and Alphas in the Alpha directory. It should show up here when it's released with messages like Mystic Verson 47 is out.

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Actually, either ANSI or prompt will work...

Hi, i am trying to see if i can get this right...
this is the code i currently have for my main menu. its still not showing the text field being shortened. however when i put it in the start of the code it does move it around on the screen....
NOTE: I = pipe

example:
I$R05ICRI[X05I[Y08I09(I10MI09) I03Messages

this is the code in the menu settings. it also appears that there is no code entries for "main" in the prompt area...
am i missing something?

Thanks
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On 04/16/2021 6:35 pm gcubebuddy said...

Hi, i am trying to see if i can get this right... this is the code i currently have for my main menu. its still not showing the text field being shortened. however when i put it in the start of the code it does move it around on the screen.... NOTE: I = pipe

example: I$R05ICRI[X05I[Y08I09(I10MI09) I03Messages

In the example you show above, you "padded" a carriage return.
I$R30IUN would do username + spaces to equal 30 chacters
I$L30IUN would do 30 spaces, to include username on right hand side.
so scenario:
cool ansi at line 2 column 40 and you don't want to overwrite.
you are placing user kilobytes (KT) downloaded at column 30.
You would write:
I[X30I[Y02I$R10I$KT
if it's on the ansi file, you can place this just about anywhere you could fit it. if you were doing it menu wise, this would be in the prompts section under your main menu.

Reference: http://wiki.mysticbbs.com/doku.php?id=displaycodes


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Actually, either ANSI or prompt will work...

ok, so i have tried different combinations of commands inside the menu editor for the main menu, and it seems to move around the text (M) Messages but
still not doing want i am wanting. i tried both the "I$R05" and "IK" but it still doesnt seem to want to take it. I had a question, for the main menu on peoples customized themes, do they remove the text command from the menu
editor area and put those codes in the prompt area? if so, what steps did you take to migrate the commands from the menu editor to the prompt editor. i
know for the Main menu, there are almost no commands for it in the prompt editor area. they are all written in the menu editor area... i am wondering
if it makes a difference with the way the code works or something.....
thanks for all the advice with this....

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In the example you show above, you "padded" a carriage return.
I$R30IUN would do username + spaces to equal 30 chacters
I$L30IUN would do 30 spaces, to include username on right hand side.
so scenario:
cool ansi at line 2 column 40 and you don't want to overwrite.
you are placing user kilobytes (KT) downloaded at column 30.
You would write:
I[X30I[Y02I$R10I$KT

Ok so i think i have just about tried every combination accept to removing
the code from the menu editor and putting it in the prompt editor. however i
am not exactly sure how to do that. i know how to remove the command from the menu editor, but not sure how to create an entry in the prompt editor and to get it to assign it to the main menu...

Thanks
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On 04/21/2021 2:29 pm gcubebuddy said...

Ok so i think i have just about tried every combination accept to removing the code from the menu editor and putting it in the prompt editor. however i am not exactly sure how to do that. i know how to remove the command from the menu editor, but not sure how to create an entry in the prompt editor and to get it to assign it to the main menu...

You're good now after our email convo - yes?
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You're good now after our email convo - yes?
=-Nuke-=

yes! thank you so much for helping me find the right code. i am using the
code as a template for setting other menus now on the BBS. so far i got the login, main, chat, and another menu almost completed. just a few minor adjustments and it will be done. i am working my way through the menu list in re-connecting the pages. once they are all setup and appear pretty stable i
was going to migrate it over to the PROD system.

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On Thursday, April 22nd gcubebuddy was heard saying...

You're good now after our email convo - yes?

yes! thank you so much for helping me find the right code. i am using the pretty stable i was going to migrate it over to the PROD system.

... SWEET!

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