So im thinking about making a BBS , a stock mystic setup with misc mods that would allow new sysops sysop access to look under the hood and help with modding and net setup , sometimes its easier to see how its done rather then reading how its done,this could be collective board setup kinda like a hands on how to or I could go alone . so do you all think this would be helpfull to new sysops or no , Good bad ugly let me know your thoughts . I would setup a fsx node , leave easter egg notes here and there , prompt mods, menu mods ,
command line settings for doors , MRC setup and whatever else would be helpful . all users would have 255 sysop access and the system password would be provided and they could go in and poke around . there could also be local message areas that more experienced sysops could leave tricks of the trade messages .... any who just an idea .

Sysop SolaRis
Error 1202 and Error 404 BBS !
FSXnet HuB 2 Tholian AdmiN !

... Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/10 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Error 1202 BBS (21:2/1202)

On 21 Apr 2022, Solaris said the following...

So im thinking about making a BBS , a stock mystic setup with misc mods that would allow new sysops sysop access to look under the hood and help with modding and net setup , sometimes its easier to see how its done rather then reading how its done,this could be collective board setup kinda like a hands on how to or I could go alone . so do you all think this would be helpfull to new sysops or no , Good bad ugly let me know your thoughts . I would setup a fsx node , leave easter egg notes here
and there , prompt mods, menu mods , command line settings for doors , MRC setup and whatever else would be helpful . all users would have 255 sysop access and the system password would be provided and they could go in and poke around . there could also be local message areas that more experienced sysops could leave tricks of the trade messages .... any who just an idea .

Sysop SolaRis
Error 1202 and Error 404 BBS !

Honestly at first I was thinking how are you going to protect the hardware, or VM if that is what you want to use, then I said it's a great idea! It really is though, there are a TON OF NEW sysOp's running Mystic now, and between here, TQW and Fido the questions are non-stop. If g00r00 were to get involved to an extent with his heavy workload when he is not busy, it could be a way to show new sysOp's an answer to their question. Any help I can provide just ask, I would love to help out.. Kind of like a give back to all of you who have helped me out.. After running this software now for 4 years, (stealing most of SysOp Solaris' ideas) and adding in my own ideas, this is a good way for me to pay it forward.. Count me in!

Al - Bucko

... APPLE: It may be slow, but at least it's expensive.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32)
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)

On 21 Apr 2022, Solaris said the following...

So im thinking about making a BBS , a stock mystic setup with misc mo that would allow new sysops sysop access to look under the hood and h with modding and net setup , sometimes its easier to see how its done rather then reading how its done,this could be collective board setup kinda like a hands on how to or I could go alone . so do you all thin this would be helpfull to new sysops or no , Good bad ugly let me kno your thoughts . I would setup a fsx node , leave easter egg notes her and there , prompt mods, menu mods , command line settings for doors MRC setup and whatever else would be helpful . all users would have 2 sysop access and the system password would be provided and they could in and poke around . there could also be local message areas that mor experienced sysops could leave tricks of the trade messages .... any just an idea .

Sysop SolaRis
Error 1202 and Error 404 BBS !

Honestly at first I was thinking how are you going to protect the hardware, or VM if that is what you want to use, then I said it's a
great idea! It really is though, there are a TON OF NEW sysOp's running Mystic now, and between here, TQW and Fido the questions are non-stop.
If g00r00 were to get involved to an extent with his heavy workload when he is not busy, it could be a way to show new sysOp's an answer to their question. Any help I can provide just ask, I would love to help out..
Kind of like a give back to all of you who have helped me out.. After running this software now for 4 years, (stealing most of SysOp Solaris' ideas) and adding in my own ideas, this is a good way for me to pay it forward.. Count me in!

Al - Bucko

... APPLE: It may be slow, but at least it's expensive.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32)
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)

The sooner the better because all the info I find is so out dated and the Wiki seems to be missing so much info. I cannot get the events system to work correctly at all so if any one feels like helping me out I'm using Ubuntu as the server for it and I'm on discord as Claw22000#5812

thanks in advance

DrClaw
Sysop Noverdu BBS (Noverdu.com)
BBS Specs 64 CORE/192G Ram/Dell Server

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)

On 21 Apr 2022, claw said the following...

The sooner the better because all the info I find is so out dated and
the Wiki seems to be missing so much info. I cannot get the events
system to work correctly at all so if any one feels like helping me out I'm using Ubuntu as the server for it and I'm on discord as
Claw22000#5812

I wish I could help you with the Ubuntu side, I set up a test bed of Ubuntu running Mystic at one point last year with the idea I was going to move my BBS from Windows to Ubuntu but never finished the conversion. So, I am still in Windows on my end. Post your issues here, I am sure someone will be able to point you in the right direction, only suggestion I can make (I am just staring to move all of my machines over to Debian 11) is make sure you are using ./ in front of the commands, and also make sure permissions are set correctly. Other then that, I am currently at a loss until I start to play with it more.. Sorry I can't help much..

Al

... Press SPACEBAR once to abort, or twice to save changes

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32)
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)

I wish I could help you with the Ubuntu side, I set up a test bed of Ubuntu running Mystic at one point last year with the idea I was going
to move my BBS from Windows to Ubuntu but never finished the conversion. So, I am still in Windows on my end. Post your issues here, I am sure someone will be able to point you in the right direction, only
suggestion I can make (I am just staring to move all of my machines over to Debian 11) is make sure you are using ./ in front of the commands,
and also make sure permissions are set correctly. Other then that, I am currently at a loss until I start to play with it more.. Sorry I can't help much..

Well I basically deleted the semaphores and remade them and it worked. So I can assume 1 of 2 things happened. either messing with it so much corrupted it somehow, or the more likely option I was just so frustrated with it I couldn't see a typo. either way its all finally working! OMG!

DrClaw
Sysop Noverdu BBS (Noverdu.com)
BBS Specs 64 CORE/192G Ram/Dell Server

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)

So im thinking about making a BBS , a stock mystic setup with mi that would allow new sysops sysop access to look under the hood with modding and net setup , sometimes its easier to see how its rather then reading how its done,this could be collective board kinda like a hands on how to or I could go alone . so do you all this would be helpfull to new sysops or no , Good bad ugly let m your thoughts . I would setup a fsx node , leave easter egg note and there , prompt mods, menu mods , command line settings for MRC setup and whatever else would be helpful . all users would h sysop access and the system password would be provided and they in and poke around . there could also be local message areas tha experienced sysops could leave tricks of the trade messages .... just an idea .

Sysop SolaRis
Error 1202 and Error 404 BBS !

Honestly at first I was thinking how are you going to protect the hardware, or VM if that is what you want to use, then I said it's a great idea! It really is though, there are a TON OF NEW sysOp's runni Mystic now, and between here, TQW and Fido the questions are non-stop If g00r00 were to get involved to an extent with his heavy workload w he is not busy, it could be a way to show new sysOp's an answer to th question. Any help I can provide just ask, I would love to help out.. Kind of like a give back to all of you who have helped me out.. After running this software now for 4 years, (stealing most of SysOp Solari ideas) and adding in my own ideas, this is a good way for me to pay i forward.. Count me in!

Al - Bucko

The sooner the better because all the info I find is so out dated and
the Wiki seems to be missing so much info. I cannot get the events
system to work correctly at all so if any one feels like helping me out I'm using Ubuntu as the server for it and I'm on discord as
Claw22000#5812

thanks in advance

This would be something I would be interested in. I did set up my own instance of Mystic for mucking around on, but it could be helpful to see how others have done things. Being able to log in, and see the code, the settings behind an action I'd like to use would be very useful.

You would need to vet people carefully though, as I could imagine there are many ways to sabotage the system by getting mystic to run external commands. Be sure to run Mystic under its own user, with only read/write access to the relevant folder.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 21 Apr 2022, claw said the following...

Well I basically deleted the semaphores and remade them and it worked.
So I can assume 1 of 2 things happened. either messing with it so much corrupted it somehow, or the more likely option I was just so frustrated with it I couldn't see a typo. either way its all finally working! OMG!

Glad you got it fixed.. Reminds me of when I was putting my CNet Amiga BBS online, I was hooking up to the networks and I couldn't get binkd to work properly, so I tried all these different front ends. Still couldn't get it working, finally went back to binkd and screwed around with it for a few hours, still nothing. I had it working 1 way incoming only, I said screw it, killed everything in the outgoing folder and went to bed. Next morning I see messages from my CNet Amiga board on my Mystic!! Something I did corrupted something else.. Glad you got it going though...

Al

... A Skydiver is taken by the gravity of his situation.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32)
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)

On 22 Apr 2022, boraxman said the following...

You would need to vet people carefully though, as I could imagine there are many ways to sabotage the system by getting mystic to run external commands. Be sure to run Mystic under its own user, with only
read/write access to the relevant folder.

Actually, he could remove the drop to dos command, and anything that would allow any dos interactions.. Another thing he could do is build a base system, make a copy of the folder, and if anything gets mucked up, just delete the mystic folder, and replace it with the backup, if everyone is getting acs 255 from the start it really doesn't matter if you have to log on new each time. Then again, knowing the work Solaris does, he has a plan already in place.. LOL

Al

... Press any key to continue or any other key to quit...

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32)
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)

Glad you got it fixed.. Reminds me of when I was putting my CNet Amiga
BBS online, I was hooking up to the networks and I couldn't get binkd to work properly, so I tried all these different front ends. Still couldn't get it working, finally went back to binkd and screwed around with it
for a few hours, still nothing. I had it working 1 way incoming only, I said screw it, killed everything in the outgoing folder and went to bed. Next morning I see messages from my CNet Amiga board on my Mystic!! Something I did corrupted something else.. Glad you got it going
though...

don't know if I could give up my Miggy to a BBS. Guess I'm too selfish but nope can't do it.

DrClaw
Sysop Noverdu BBS (Noverdu.com)
BBS Specs 64 CORE/192G Ram/Dell Server

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)

Actually, he could remove the drop to dos command, and anything that
would allow any dos interactions.. Another thing he could do is build a base system, make a copy of the folder, and if anything gets mucked up, just delete the mystic folder, and replace it with the backup, if
everyone is getting acs 255 from the start it really doesn't matter if
you have to log on new each time. Then again, knowing the work Solaris does, he has a plan already in place.. LOL

Al

Could a user upload a script or binary to the BBS, then enter a menu item which runs that script?

for example, I could upload to the BBs a script that has
#!/bin/sh
rm -rf /mystic/*

then add a menu item to run an external program, and give the full path of that script.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 22 Apr 2022, claw said the following...

don't know if I could give up my Miggy to a BBS. Guess I'm too selfish but nope can't do it.

My CNet is run on a emulated Amiga, I do everything retro emulated now..Back in the day I ran my BBS on a A3000 but I had 2 serial ports and was able to do anything I wanted anyway..

... You can learn many things from children... like how much patience you have

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32)
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)

On 23 Apr 2022, boraxman said the following...

Could a user upload a script or binary to the BBS, then enter a menu
item which runs that script?

for example, I could upload to the BBs a script that has
#!/bin/sh
rm -rf /mystic/*

then add a menu item to run an external program, and give the full path
of that script.

Actually, they could. Didn't think of that.. Jeez. LOL

... Error 3032 - Recursion error. See error 3032.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32)
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)

Just an idea but Maybe call the BBS (42 BBS) The answer to everything!

|23|04Dr|16|12Claw
|16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |04(|14Noverdu.com|04)
|10Standard Ports for SSH/Telnet Web/HTTP://|14Noverdu.com:808
|22|01fsxNet/MRC Chat/Registered Doors!/50Nodes/No Time Use! Stay On!|16|07

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)