Hey All,

I'm looking to setup an offline mail reader like Multimail... there doesn't seem to be a lot docs on the subject... but, from what I found it seems like you need to setup a gateway and then you can use that pretty readily.

For Mystic/rpi are there any goods choices for gateway software? Is this a fairly easy or difficult process? Is it worth the hassle? TIA

-seeLive

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On 10-07-22 15:56, seeLive wrote to All <=-

Hey All,

I'm looking to setup an offline mail reader like Multimail... there doesn't seem to be a lot docs on the subject... but, from what I found
it seems like you need to setup a gateway and then you can use that
pretty readily.

For Mystic/rpi are there any goods choices for gateway software? Is
this a fairly easy or difficult process? Is it worth the hassle? TIA

The BBS side is built into Mystic.


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On 09 Oct 2022, Vk3jed said the following...

On 10-07-22 15:56, seeLive wrote to All <=-

Hey All,

I'm looking to setup an offline mail reader like Multimail... there doesn't seem to be a lot docs on the subject... but, from what I foun it seems like you need to setup a gateway and then you can use that pretty readily.

For Mystic/rpi are there any goods choices for gateway software? Is this a fairly easy or difficult process? Is it worth the hassle? TIA

The BBS side is built into Mystic.

hmmm... I see some arcane references to using it in the mystic wiki, and that others are successfully doing it, but nothing about how...

Are you aware of any good references for a starting place? I don't know enough about the protocols to make any educated guesses yet.

I did find some references to hooking mystic .dat files directly... meaning Multimail would need to be installed on the same system as Mystic... is that how it is supposed to be done or through QWK/QWKE, Soup, Blue Wave?

Thanks, for any input you have.

-seeLive

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On 07 Oct 2022 at 03:56p, seeLive pondered and said...

Hey All,

I'm looking to setup an offline mail reader like Multimail... there doesn't seem to be a lot docs on the subject... but, from what I found
it seems like you need to setup a gateway and then you can use that
pretty readily.

I have not used Multimail so can't advise much about the setup.

For Mystic/rpi are there any goods choices for gateway software? Is this
a fairly easy or difficult process? Is it worth the hassle? TIA

Are you asking how can I use Mystic to supply my offline reader with QWK packets to read / reply to?

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On 10 Oct 2022, Avon said the following...

On 07 Oct 2022 at 03:56p, seeLive pondered and said...

Hey All,

I'm looking to setup an offline mail reader like Multimail... there doesn't seem to be a lot docs on the subject... but, from what I foun it seems like you need to setup a gateway and then you can use that pretty readily.

I have not used Multimail so can't advise much about the setup.

For Mystic/rpi are there any goods choices for gateway software? Is t a fairly easy or difficult process? Is it worth the hassle? TIA

Are you asking how can I use Mystic to supply my offline reader with QWK packets to read / reply to?

Hey Avon, Yes, I'm trying to setup an offline reader (MultiMail) and am wondering what if anything needs to be done on the mystic side... Thanks!

-seeLive

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On 10-09-22 20:07, seeLive wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Ei8ther you're thinking about something different to normal offline mail, or simply overthinking things. :) Maybe you need to explain yourself, if the following down't work.

I'm assuming (through your use of non standard language), that you're wanting to use Multimail as an ordinary user to read your mail offline. By "ordinary user", I am including the sysop account - any account where you can download new mail, read and compose offline, then upload a .REP packet.

hmmm... I see some arcane references to using it in the mystic wiki,
and that others are successfully doing it, but nothing about how...

By default, offline mail can be accessed from an offline menu, which is in turned accessed from the messages menu. From the offline menu, you can select what echos to download, select other QWK packet options, as well as download and upload mail using X/Y/Xmodem.

Are you aware of any good references for a starting place? I don't know enough about the protocols to make any educated guesses yet.

Protocols? You don't need to know anything about protocols (again, is my assumption wrong?).

I did find some references to hooking mystic .dat files directly... meaning Multimail would need to be installed on the same system as Mystic... is that how it is supposed to be done or through QWK/QWKE,
Soup, Blue Wave?

Again, I'm a bit baffled about this reference.


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On 14 Oct 2022, Vk3jed said the following...

On 10-09-22 20:07, seeLive wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Ei8ther you're thinking about something different to normal offline
mail, or simply overthinking things. :) Maybe you need to explain yourself, if the following down't work.

I'm assuming (through your use of non standard language), that you're wanting to use Multimail as an ordinary user to read your mail offline. By "ordinary user", I am including the sysop account - any account where you can download new mail, read and compose offline, then upload a .REP packet.

hmmm... I see some arcane references to using it in the mystic wiki, and that others are successfully doing it, but nothing about how...

By default, offline mail can be accessed from an offline menu, which is
in turned accessed from the messages menu. From the offline menu, you
can select what echos to download, select other QWK packet options, as well as download and upload mail using X/Y/Xmodem.

Hey Vk3jed,

Thanks, very much for the response. It is greatly appreciated. Let me try to summarize it all at once instead of interspersing my replies.

What you are seeing is simply my complete ignorance on the subject of BBS Offline mail readers. I have zero experience with them and was unable to find any meaningful documentation on the subject.

You are correct, both in that, I was thinking of what you are saying is 'normal offline mail' and that I was completely over thinking it! I was thinking that offline meant 100% offline. Like for example, Multimail would use some protocol to hook the message bases in Mystic. I never would have guessed that it is actually more of a 50% offline solution, at least in my way of thinking, in that you actually have to go online to both download the messages and to upload the responses... I did not expect that from the term 'offline mail'.

So, if I am understanding you correctly, in Mystic for example, I would need to go to the Message menu then to the offline menu, download the messages, edit them offline in Multimail. Then, upload my replies back into Mystic using the same offline menu... correct? That is a little wacky to me. If I were designing that solution, I would have gone a very different way, but then again this is 80's BBS tech and I never used it this way at that time. I was writing BBSs and terminal emulators, etc. on the C=64. I certainly interfaced with DOS BBSs, but C=64 was more my world for BBSs.

I think we have achieved parity, unless you tell me otherwise... Thanks, again!

-seeLive

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Don't know anything about a "gateway", should just be able to go to the QWK options on mystic, and download your QWK packet and then upload your REP packets.

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On 07 Oct 2022, Geri Atricks said the following...

Don't know anything about a "gateway", should just be able to go to the QWK options on mystic, and download your QWK packet and then upload your REP packets.

Thanks, GA... just got it working... and, yes that was it

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