• AMSAT-BB-digest V14 298

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    To : SATDIG@WW

    Today's Topics:

    1. Re: Space-Track TLEs now include PSAT2 and BRICSAT2 (aka
    USNAP1) (John Brier)
    2. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 14, Issue 296 (Waving an antenna)
    (Michael)
    3. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 14, Issue 296 (Waving an antenna)
    (Zach Metzinger)
    4. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 14, Issue 296 (Waving an antenna)
    (Andrew Glasbrenner)
    5. AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 14, Issue 296 (Waving an antenna)
    (Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW)
    6. Re: Transponders For Rent??? (for free - OTHERNET)
    (Robert Bruninga)
    7. Re: Space-Track TLEs now include PSAT2 and BRICSAT2 (aka
    USNAP1) (Greg D)
    8. An AMSAT member wins the Alabama Outstanding Youth Ham Award
    Recipient (Jeff Johns)
    9. Re: An AMSAT member wins the Alabama Outstanding Youth Ham
    Award Recipient (Michelle Thompson)
    10. Re: An AMSAT member wins the Alabama Outstanding Youth Ham
    Award Recipient (Brian L. Threlkeld)
    11. Re: An AMSAT member wins the Alabama Outstanding Youth Ham
    Award Recipient (Jeff Johns)


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    Message: 1
    Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 11:33:11 -0400
    From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
    To: Robert Switzer <robert_switzer@???.???>, Robert Switzer <rs2atmink@?????.???>
    Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
    Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Space-Track TLEs now include PSAT2 and
    BRICSAT2 (aka USNAP1)
    Message-ID: <CALn0fKNnwoA8jay9aEdwkP7yRvQ01TpJUz=giax6-1Ur4ThcgA@????.?????.???> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"


    I know it gets its frequency data from SatNOGS. The developer responds to queries on Twitter.

    73, John Brier KG4AKV

    On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, 11:28 Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

    Does anyone know what file/source that the droid app "ISS Detector" uses? It's still only showing PSAT2 as 44357 . 2019-036-U
    Rob KA2CZU

    On Friday, August 2, 2019, 10:11:50 AM EDT, FM Hillhouse Jr via
    AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

    Hi Greg,




    The numbers are in this file. I assume at this point they are correct.




    http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt




    Best regards,


    Fred N7FMH




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    On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 2:50 AM -0400, "Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB" < amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:










    Celestrak is adding PSAT2 and BRICSAT2 to their Amateur Radio TLE list.

    Bob
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    Message: 2
    Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 11:57:33 -0400
    From: Michael <mat_62@???????.???>
    To: amsat-bb@?????.???
    Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 14, Issue 296 (Waving an antenna)
    Message-ID: <a2256bdf-35ee-cd7a-eb87-c83e3b8369ef@???????.???>
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    You miss the point. Of course there is room for all types and not once
    did I suggest that anyone using a handheld antenna is some sort of "low
    life". I'm just saying that IMO the easysat mentality has been run in
    the ground as a selling point for this branch of the hobby. AMSAT needs
    to break out of that mold and do something new! I'm begging! But, it
    falls on deaf ears. BTW, that doesn't mean pie in the sky stuff that
    everyone knows has no chance to come to? fruition. I'm not that
    gullible. I'll crawl back in my hole now, lurk on the reflector and hope
    for better days when we are pushing the envelope again rather than
    becoming an also ran. I guess my dues money and paltry donations? don't
    make a difference to the organization. None the less, I will continue to withhold them till I see some change, although I won't be holding my
    breath! Again, just one man's opinion but if we just continue to
    maintain the status quo as it stands now, I see a dim future for this organization. Sigh...

    73,

    Michael, W4HIJ


    Message: 4
    Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 18:31:07 +0000 (UTC)
    From: Brad Smith <corlissbs@???.???>
    To: amsat-bb@?????.???
    Subject: [amsat-bb] Waving An Antenna
    Message-ID: <1624430397.216251.1564684267582@????.?????.???>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

    <I don't mean to suggest there's anything wrong with easy. I just think,
    as a selling point, it's run it's course is all. How many times are you
    going to watch a guy at a hamfest with an HT and a handheld? antenna
    exchange grid squares? I would think sooner or later people just walk on
    by.? "Seen it already, where's the new rigs?" >
    There is room in this hobby for all types of radio/satellite contact. I
    have recently introduced two other hams to satellites by "waving an
    antenna." They both bought Arrow 2 antennas and now are having great fun
    with the birds. If I had a rotor system on a tripod, these people would have passed it up as too complicated. Our ham club is going to build our own stressed moxon antennas so everyone can work the birds. Depending if one is trying to get people into the satellite hobby or dazzle them with
    technology, one has to tailor the display to the crowd. Yes, I belong to the KISS club. (Keep It Simple Stupid) But on the other hand, I do work the SSB birds, receive SSTV images from the ISS and am learning to send packets. I welcome the new ideas. If I have to buy a new radio, so be it. If I have to
    pay for some air time, so be it. If I have a learning curve, so be it. But I still will be the low life out there waving an Arrow 2 antenna because it is fun, gets the job done, and still
    gi
    ves me a thrill. And all my neighbors think I should have a tin foil hat
    as I stand in my yard with my antenna in the air.? Brad KC9UQR







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    Message: 3
    Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 11:19:32 -0500
    From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
    To: Michael via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
    Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 14, Issue 296 (Waving an antenna)
    Message-ID: <20190802161931.GA94598@????????>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

    On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 11:57:33AM -0400, Michael via AMSAT-BB wrote:
    Again, just one man's opinion but if we just continue to
    maintain the status quo as it stands now, I see a dim future for this organization. Sigh...

    Michael,


    I certainly see some excellent changes afoot with the GOLF program,
    which AMSAT has backronym-ed into Greater Orbit Larger Footprint. Please
    do check out https://www.amsat.org/category/amsat-news/golf/ regularly
    for updates.

    Building, testing, and launching a satellite is a complex process -- more complex than I would have originally suspected. The process takes time,
    and AMSAT is limited by ITAR as to what it can share. Want to make a change? Write your senators and representatives about the insane idea of considering amateur satellites as potential space weapons!

    It is easy for a challenger to claim that they'll do something amazing that
    the incumbent board members haven't done. However, I'd put my money on
    actual progress, not talk. AMSAT has regularly launched LEO sats, with
    one single failure in recent history. Fox-1E will carry a linear transponder and is the next one to go up.[1]

    Push the envelope! Get ready for 5GHz up / 10GHz down, experiment with
    digital modes over linear transponders using appropriate power, work on
    a portable setup for new hams, or publish an article. The future is yours
    to define!

    73,

    --- Zach
    N0ZGO

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMSAT#Current_projects


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    Message: 4
    Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 12:21:21 -0400
    From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@??????????.???>
    To: "'Michael'" <mat_62@???????.???>
    Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
    Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 14, Issue 296 (Waving an antenna)
    Message-ID: <02f701d5494e$52d4c450$f87e4cf0$@??????????.???>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

    Golf includes a 5/10 GHz SDR transponder. Does that qualify?

    https://www.amsat.org/greater-orbit-larger-footprint-an-introduction-to-the-am sat-golf-program/

    73, Drew KO4MA

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    From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Michael via AMSAT-BB Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 11:58 AM
    To: amsat-bb@?????.???
    Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 14, Issue 296 (Waving an antenna)

    You miss the point. Of course there is room for all types and not once did I suggest that anyone using a handheld a