Flew up to Canada from Dallas last Thursday to see Chris de Burgh in
concert in St Catharine's, just north of Niagara Falls. It was well
worth the trip. Excellent show., Played pretty much all the songs I
wanted to hear and I got a few I'd never heard before and a few from
the Robin Hood album. Very entertaining and engaging even if it does go
on a political tilt from time to time.
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On 26 Apr 2023 at 12:41a, Nigel Reed pondered and said...

Flew up to Canada from Dallas last Thursday to see Chris de Burgh in concert in St Catharine's, just north of Niagara Falls. It was well
worth the trip. Excellent show., Played pretty much all the songs I
wanted to hear and I got a few I'd never heard before and a few from
the Robin Hood album. Very entertaining and engaging even if it does go
on a political tilt from time to time.

That would have been fun... tell me Nigel, how is his voice holding up? I ask as I see some artists over time whose vocal chords start to fail them and/or they seemingly start to sound off-key or similar as age/time/repetition catch up with them :(

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Hello Avon!

Flew up to Canada from Dallas last Thursday to see Chris
de Burgh in concert [...]

That would have been fun... tell me Nigel, how is his voice
holding up? I ask as I see some artists over time whose
vocal chords start to fail them and/or they seemingly start
to sound off-key or similar as age/time/repetition catch up
with them :(

Auditioning his Robin Hood recoring right now. The voice still
sounds the very close to as before. There is a hint of "age"
perhaps, but it is subtle.


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Hello Nigel!

Flew up to Canada from Dallas last Thursday to see Chris
de Burgh in concert in St Catharine's, just north of
Niagara Falls. It was well worth the trip. Excellent
show., Played pretty much all the songs I wanted to hear
and I got a few I'd never heard before and a few from the
Robin Hood album. Very entertaining and engaging even if
it does go on a political tilt from time to time.

Didn't know he had a new album out.

I saw him in Toronto many years ago in the what was once Maple
Leaf Gardens. Tickets were reasonably cheap.. the seats were
high up in the nose-bleeds. The stage was at the narrow end of
the arena. I had binoculars, but the viewing experience was
next to deplorable. DeBurgh is a man of small stature.. at that
distance it may was well been anyone on the stage and
lipsyncing. I get a much better experience enjoying music in
a favorite chair and on a home hi-fi.

How much were tickets? What was your seating location? Was it
a good visual stage performance with any special effects?

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Flew up to Canada from Dallas last Thursday to see Chris de Burgh in
concert in St Catharine's, just north of Niagara Falls. It was well

Wow. Chris de Burgh. The only song I know from him is 'Lady in Red', and whenever I hear it I am *instantly* transported back to the 9th grade, to the homecoming dance where I nervously danced to that song with a girl named
Karen O'Rourke, who happened to be wearing a red dress. I can still feel the heat of the small of her back. lol.

It's funny how some songs that were sort of just the background music of your life (i.e. I never owned a Chris de Burgh album or really paid much attention to his music) can evoke such memories.

...I wonder where Karen O'Rourke is these days?

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That would have been fun... tell me Nigel, how is his voice holding up?
I ask as I see some artists over time whose vocal chords start to fail them and/or they seemingly start to sound off-key or similar as age/time/repetition catch up with them :(

I saw Roxy Music during their 50th anniversary tour. Bryan Ferry's lost
some of the high range he had (it was his 75th birthday!) so some of the
newer songs were in a lower key. They sounded OK, just not what we'd
remembered from countless plays. Oddly enough, Roxy Music's older works
were in a lower key, and he nailed them perfectly.

Still an amazing show.



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Re: Chris de Burgh
By: Ogg to Nigel Reed on Wed Apr 26 2023 08:12:00

Didn't know he had a new album out.

Well, not exactly new...new to me. The Legend of Robin Hood came out in 2021.

How much were tickets? What was your seating location? Was it
a good visual stage performance with any special effects?

In Canadian $ for each seat

$139.50 - seat
$4.25 - order processing fee
$5.75 - facility charge
$18.05 - service fee

I was in row B seats 5 and 6. Beyond the end of the stage so craned my neck most of the show but got a good view. Nice stage setup, they had large lanterns, about 5 of them, used for good effect during Ferryman and sections of Moonfleet.

He started the show solo switching between piano and guitar then the band joined him.

Beyond that, usual lights and lasers you have at concerts these days. I have a few pictures up on my facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10160485559963610&type=3

I would definitely go see him again.

The only downside that there was just 4 of us waiting after the show to get autographs (for me) and a guy and his girl wanted a picture. He rushed to his SUV, and wouldn't come out and drove away. Kind of sucky for a guy who said if it wasn't for the fans, he wouldn't be there performing. Just 4 people. Of course, he could be covid shy but even Colin Hay who was all masked up signed if people also wore a mask.
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Re: Chris de Burgh
By: Abbub to Nigel Reed on Wed Apr 26 2023 07:53:21

Wow. Chris de Burgh. The only song I know from him is 'Lady in Red', and whenever I hear it I am *instantly* transported back to the 9th grade, to

You probably know more than you realize.

It's funny how some songs that were sort of just the background music of your life (i.e. I never owned a Chris de Burgh album or really paid much attention to his music) can evoke such memories.

He is a great story teller. If you happen to like Mark Knopfler or Dire Straits, you'll probably like more de Burgh stuff. They're both great storytellers with this music and it's easier to imagine the scene they're singing about, more so than other sings in my opinion.

Don't Pay the Ferryman
Borderline / Say Goodbye to it All
Last Night
In a Country Churchyard
Ballroom of Romance
The Traveller
...all great story songs.

...I wonder where Karen O'Rourke is these days?

Facebook is the friend of stalkers :)
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Re: Re: Chris de Burgh
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Avon on Wed Apr 26 2023 07:15:00

I saw Roxy Music during their 50th anniversary tour. Bryan Ferry's lost
some of the high range he had (it was his 75th birthday!) so some of the newer songs were in a lower key. They sounded OK, just not what we'd remembered from countless plays. Oddly enough, Roxy Music's older works
were in a lower key, and he nailed them perfectly.

De Burgh is 74 so some of his higher notes were more falsetto and weaker than on the album but he's still got a pretty good range. I'm sure everything was in the original key. Hard to believe some of these artists have been going for so many years. His first gigs were supporting Supertramp in 1974.
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Re: Re: Chris de Burgh
By: Avon to Nigel Reed on Wed Apr 26 2023 20:24:45

That would have been fun... tell me Nigel, how is his voice holding up? I ask as I see some artists over time whose vocal chords start to fail them and/or they seemingly start to sound off-key or similar as age/time/repetition catch up with them :(

He did pretty well actually. As I mentioned elsewhere, some parts he had to do a sort of falsetto which was a bit weak, like in 'no borderline". I have no real complaints. He's 74. He can sing better than I can at any age.
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He is a great story teller. If you happen to like Mark Knopfler or Dire Straits, you'll probably like more de Burgh stuff. They're both great storytellers with this music and it's easier to imagine the scene
they're singing about, more so than other sings in my opinion.

I do like Knopfler / Dire Straits quite a lot, so I'll hit up my local streaming service and check out a few de Burgh albums.

...I wonder where Karen O'Rourke is these days?

Facebook is the friend of stalkers :)

Yeah, I don't do Facebook/Meta. "You can never go home again, but I guess
you can shop there." Some things, like Karen O'Rourke, are probably best left to memories, anyway. :)

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Re: Chris de Burgh
By: Abbub to Nigel Reed on Wed Apr 26 2023 12:26:03

I do like Knopfler / Dire Straits quite a lot, so I'll hit up my local streaming service and check out a few de Burgh albums.

You don't need an account to view them. I have the pictures set to public.
His big ones were probably Spanish Train and Other Stories, Flying Colours and Into the Light. A Spark to a Flame is a compilation with a couple of non-album tracks so you get a good mix of stuff.

Yeah, I don't do Facebook/Meta. "You can never go home again, but I guess you can shop there." Some things, like Karen O'Rourke, are probably best left to memories, anyway. :)

I feel the same way about Wendy Kirby lol.
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On 26 Apr 2023 at 07:15a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

I saw Roxy Music during their 50th anniversary tour. Bryan Ferry's lost some of the high range he had (it was his 75th birthday!) so some of the newer songs were in a lower key. They sounded OK, just not what we'd remembered from countless plays. Oddly enough, Roxy Music's older works were in a lower key, and he nailed them perfectly.

He must have been thinking ahead :)

I went and saw Robbie Williams when he came to town back in 2019 I think it was, and he was a very good entertainer. Knew how to get the crowd wound up (in a good way) and by the end we we're all having a good old sing along. I really enjoyed his show not just because of the music but because of the way he engaged with his audience and the fun had on the night.

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On 26 Apr 2023 at 12:37p, Nigel Reed pondered and said...

De Burgh is 74 so some of his higher notes were more falsetto and weaker than on the album but he's still got a pretty good range. I'm sure

You have to wonder how long they should be performing as their voices start to falter etc... the last Elton John concert he did in the USA (it's on Disney+ here in NZ) is rather sad IMHO.

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Fair enough... I tend to limit my singing to bathroom solos - heh :)

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Re: Re: Chris de Burgh
By: Avon to Nigel Reed on Sat Apr 29 2023 20:17:15

You have to wonder how long they should be performing as their voices start to falter etc... the last Elton John concert he did in the USA (it's on Disney+ here in NZ) is rather sad IMHO.

If they can still travel and people want to buy the tickets, then let them perform as much as they want. Even if they can't sing that well, it's still nice to see an artist you enjoy up close.
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Re: Re: Chris de Burgh
By: Avon to Nigel Reed on Sat Apr 29 2023 20:17:53

Fair enough... I tend to limit my singing to bathroom solos - heh :)

Well, some things are better not spread around the FTNs....;)
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On 29 Apr 2023 at 04:38a, Nigel Reed pondered and said...

You have to wonder how long they should be performing as their voices s to falter etc... the last Elton John concert he did in the USA (it's on Disney+ here in NZ) is rather sad IMHO.

If they can still travel and people want to buy the tickets, then let
them perform as much as they want. Even if they can't sing that well,
it's still nice to see an artist you enjoy up close.

First up, is it really 4.38am where you are right now, yipes! I'm impressed.

Yes, fair enough as you say if people are prepared to pay and want to enjoy what is being offered then let them have that creative transaction with the artist. My hope is that neither side comes away unhappy.

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On 29 Apr 2023 at 04:39a, Nigel Reed pondered and said...

Fair enough... I tend to limit my singing to bathroom solos - heh :)

Well, some things are better not spread around the FTNs....;)

Tragedy
When the feeling's gone and you can't go on
It's tragedy
When the morning cries and you don't know why
It's hard to bear
With no-one to love you, you're goin' nowhere

oohhh yeah yeah yeah....

[somewhere outside a dog starts to howl]

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On 29 Apr 2023 at 09:44p, Avon pondered and said...

Tragedy
When the feeling's gone and you can't go on
It's tragedy
When the morning cries and you don't know why
It's hard to bear
With no-one to love you, you're goin' nowhere

There was another version that went something like

Tragedy
When your pants fall down in the middle of the town
It's tragedy...

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Re: Re: Bathroom Low Notes
By: Avon to Nigel Reed on Sat Apr 29 2023 21:46:27

Tragedy
When your pants fall down in the middle of the town
It's tragedy...

You would make Wierd Al proud.
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Avon wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I went and saw Robbie Williams when he came to town back in 2019 I
think it was, and he was a very good entertainer. Knew how to get the crowd wound up (in a good way) and by the end we we're all having a
good old sing along. I really enjoyed his show not just because of the music but because of the way he engaged with his audience and the fun
had on the night.

He's very entertaining. His appearances on "The Graham Norton Show" are
worth tracking down. Especially the one with Emma Thompson.



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Avon wrote to Nigel Reed <=-

Fair enough... I tend to limit my singing to bathroom solos - heh :)

I lived in a studio apartment in a 9-story building in the 1990s. The
building was built in the 30s, and had light wells that the bathrooms
shared - they doubled as ventilation for the bathroom, too, before
electric fans were a thing.

One of my neighbors on an upper floor sang opera in the shower every
morning. I'd know if I was running late if he was singing, since I was
out the door before him.



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I lived in a studio apartment in a 9-story building in the 1990s. The
One of my neighbors on an upper floor sang opera in the shower every morning. I'd know if I was running late if he was singing, since I was
out the door before him.

Oh man. Opera? That would make me nuts. I'd probably knock on his door and punch him the face. I hate Opera!

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On 29 Apr 2023 at 05:34a, Nigel Reed pondered and said...

It's tragedy...

You would make Wierd Al proud.

I think Weird Al may have been listening :)

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On 29 Apr 2023 at 07:48a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

He's very entertaining. His appearances on "The Graham Norton Show" are worth tracking down. Especially the one with Emma Thompson.

I check it out thanks :)

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On 29 Apr 2023 at 08:05a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

I lived in a studio apartment in a 9-story building in the 1990s. The building was built in the 30s, and had light wells that the bathrooms shared - they doubled as ventilation for the bathroom, too, before electric fans were a thing.

One of my neighbors on an upper floor sang opera in the shower every morning. I'd know if I was running late if he was singing, since I was
out the door before him.

This sounds rather nice and frightening all at the same time :)

I can only hope the opera was OK... pity he wasn't more into Queen or ABBA or something like that. heh.

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Re: Re: Bathroom Low Notes
By: Avon to Nigel Reed on Sun Apr 30 2023 20:52:36

You would make Wierd Al proud.

I think Weird Al may have been listening :)

Meh, can't blame that on autocorrect, just fat fingers lol.
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Re: Re: Robbie Williams
By: Avon to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Apr 30 2023 20:52:51

He's very entertaining. His appearances on "The Graham Norton Show" are worth tracking down. Especially the one with Emma Thompson.

I check it out thanks :)

Haha, and not for Robbie Williams, I'm sure.

I just can't get over the whole "boy band" thing tho. I don't think I'd ever admit to listening to a Robbie Williams song.
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Re: Chris de Burgh
By: HusTler to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Apr 29 2023 06:20 pm

Oh man. Opera? That would make me nuts. I'd probably knock on his door and punch him the face. I hate Opera!

Very neighborly. :P

I saw Roxy Music during their 50th anniversary tour. Bryan Ferry's lost some of the high range he had (it was his 75th birthday!) so some of the newer songs were in a lower key. They sounded OK, just not what we'd remembered from countless plays. Oddly enough, Roxy Music's older works were in a lower key, and he nailed them perfectly.

I think it's funny how people go to see a musical artist 50 years after their peak and expect them to sound just the way they did 50 years ago. Music evolves over time, musicians come and go, and if we are lucky they have remained active and have a ton of NEW material they would love for people to hear and support. Instead, we expect them to be human juke boxes, cranking out "the hits" and sounding exactly like they did on a decades-old recording. It's not really fair, from a musician's point of view but hey... I'm an old musician so I'm a bit biased. :)

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Alonzo wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Instead, we expect them to be
human juke boxes, cranking out "the hits" and sounding exactly like
they did on a decades-old recording. It's not really fair, from a musician's point of view but hey... I'm an old musician so I'm a bit biased. :)

The only band I expect to hear the same in concert as on tape was Rush.
Something about the way they performed made them sound the closest to
recording of any band I listened to.

Although, I grew up with them, and I preferred the live version of "Red
Barchetta" from the version on "Moving Pictures". And, MP was an album
I listened to as a kid with my first stereo and turntable, in the dark,
with those big old KOSS headphones.



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The only band I expect to hear the same in concert as on tape was Rush.
Something about the way they performed made them sound the closest to
recording of any band I listened to.

Interestingly, if I see a band and they play exactly what was in their recordings, I get a bit disappointed. I prefer some degree of chaos and improvisation. I can appreciate the attention to detail and the precision required to recreate the album experience, but it's not my preferred idea of live music. To each their own, though!

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The only band I expect to hear the same in concert as on tape was Rush.
Something about the way they performed made them sound the closest to
recording of any band I listened to.

I went to an Alice Cooper concert about 5 years ago and it was an amazing show. If anything, I thought it was even BETTER than when I saw them play back in the old days. Cooper's voice was still as strong as ever.

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The only band I expect to hear the same in concert as on tape was Rush.
Something about the way they performed made them sound the closest to
recording of any band I listened to.

Until Geddy got older and still tried to hit those hi notes - I was like, drop 1 octave and we wouldn't care.

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** On Thursday 13.07.23 - 08:46, Alonzo wrote to poindexter FORTRAN:

The only band I expect to hear the same in concert as on tape was Rush.
Something about the way they performed made them sound the closest to
recording of any band I listened to.

I went to an Alice Cooper concert about 5 years ago and it was an amazing show. If anything, I thought it was even BETTER than when I saw them play back in the old days. Cooper's voice was still as strong as ever.

Sting, Jethro Tull, Cat Stevens, and several others still
retain some of their distinctive sound.


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Interestingly, if I see a band and they play exactly what was in their recordings, I get a bit disappointed. I prefer some degree of chaos and improvisation. I can appreciate the attention to detail and the
precision required to recreate the album experience, but it's not my preferred idea of live music. To each their own, though!

I never got to go see Rush, but would have listened to them reproduce
their repetoire note for note to hear a Neil Peart solo...

I've seen Stan Ridgway a couple of times - he was the lead singer of
"Wall of Voodoo" in the 1980s, with a performance at the Us festival and
a one-hit wonder with "Mexican Radio".

Over the years, he's turned into a songwriter/storyteller, writing songs
of guys who seem to always run into bad luck in a retro noir Americana
full of rich people's swimmin' pools, Bosses who make too much money, go-nowhere jobs, seedy bars, coffee shops and brothers-in-law who are always getting in
trouble and losing jobs. Interesting stuff.

At one of his shows, he talked a bit about Wall of Voodoo and what it
was like to be a naive young kid with a hit record in Los Angeles. He
mentioned that they've heard covers of Mexican Radio in most every
genre, and asked the audience to shout out a genre.

They heard "Reggae!" and he and his band performed a reggae version of
the song. Started off a little rough, but they got into a groove
quickly.








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Re: Re: Chris de Burgh
By: esc to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jul 13 2023 01:08 am

The only band I expect to hear the same in concert as on tape was Rush.
Something about the way they performed made them sound the closest to
recording of any band I listened to.

Interestingly, if I see a band and they play exactly what was in their recordings, I get a bit disappointed. I prefer some degree of chaos and improvisation. I can appreciate the attention to detail and the precision required to recreate the album experience, but it's not my preferred idea of live music. To each their own, though!

I don't mind a bit of improvisation at live concerts (and in some cases, it can actually make for some fairly cool versions of songs), but I wouldn't want them to stray too far. Mark Knopfler (of Dire Straits) said something about that in one of his live performances - He commented something like when recording the intro to Brothers In Arms, the initial few notes didn't come out quite as intended, but he tries to play it like that in live concerts because the music people listen to tends to become a sort of soundtrack for our life, with memories we associate with it, etc.. I'm paraphrasing, but his idea was that he didn't want to stray far from the songs people know and love and come to see him perform.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Chris de Burgh
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Alonzo on Wed Jul 12 2023 07:23 am

The only band I expect to hear the same in concert as on tape was Rush. Something about the way they performed made them sound the closest to recording of any band I listened to.

I've been to a few Rush concerts, and I thought they sounded fairly close to their studio recordings, and I liked that.

There are a couple songs where I tend to prefer the concert version over the studio recording. One of them is "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band" from Paul McCartney's 1990 'Tripping the Live Fantastic' concert tour. They did an extended version of it with a long jam in the middle, and I think it just sounds good overall too. Another is The Talking Heads' "Take Me To The River" from their 1984 "Stop Making Sense" tour - They made that one faster and more upbeat in that tour compared to their studio recording.

Another band I like (some of their work, anyway) is Kraftwerk. I haven't been to any of their concerts, but from what I can tell, their live concerts tend to sound pretty much the same as their live recordings (except for some tweaks here and there). It seems that part of their act is that when they play live, they're basically playing audio samples & such from their laptops in much the same way they'd do their studio recordings.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Rush
By: SirRonmit to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jul 13 2023 08:54 am

Until Geddy got older and still tried to hit those hi notes - I was like, drop 1 octave and we wouldn't care.

I like that Rush stayed together for as long as they did. Even after the rough patch Neil Peart had around 1996-1997 when both his wife and his daughter died and he took some time off, he still got back together with Geddy and Alex and they kept doing Rush. Back when I heard about that stuff happening, I wondered if Rush was going to permanently break up.

Nightfox

I like that Rush stayed together for as long as they did. Even after the rough patch Neil Peart had around 1996-1997 when both his wife and his daughter died and he took some time off, he still got back together with Geddy and Alex and they kept doing Rush. Back when I heard about that stuff happening, I wondered if Rush was going to permanently break up.

Agreed. I watched a few different doc's about them over all that as well.

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I don't mind a bit of improvisation at live concerts (and in some cases, it can actually make for some fairly cool versions of songs), but I wouldn't want them to stray too far. Mark Knopfler (of Dire Straits)
said something about that in one of his live performances - He commented something like when recording the intro to Brothers In Arms, the initial few notes didn't come out quite as intended, but he tries to play it
like that in live concerts because the music people listen to tends to become a sort of soundtrack for our life, with memories we associate
with it, etc.. I'm paraphrasing, but his idea was that he didn't want to stray far from the songs people know and love and come to see him
perform.

I can appreciate that, for sure. For me, though, I prefer a higher degree of going into unknown territory - it makes every show a unique experience. I'm a huge Jimi Hendrix fan and he never played his songs more than once the same way. In a totally different genre, I've always been into Dave Matthews Band and similarly, they go off in different directions on each performance, which I find to be a ton of fun.

But I also know people into that kind of music have an expectation that this is what will take place. As this is my preference, I recall going to see Kings of Leon in Colorado in an open-air venue on a night that was super cold and rainy. They were covered but the audience was getting soaked. The band just played their songs exactly like the records, and everyone in the crowd was cranky already, and I left feeling really pissed, like I could have just listened to the record at home, comfortably, lol.

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Myself... I prefer to hear a band play their music totally different from
the album... anything from extended jamming to a complete re-imagination
of the song. If I want to hear the album, I'll play the album.

Just my $.02

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Re: Re: Chris de Burgh
By: Bf2K+ to Nightfox on Wed Jul 26 2023 11:39 pm

Myself... I prefer to hear a band play their music totally different from the album... anything from extended jamming to a complete re-imagination of the song. If I want to hear the album, I'll play the album.

I tend to think it's fun to see the band live and see them play the songs we all know and love. I feel like I'm not going to see them to listen to unfamiliar material, as I'm not sure I'd like that or not.

Nightfox

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"Nightfox" (21:1/137) <Nightfox@f137.n1.z21.fidonet> wrote:

Re: Re: Chris de Burgh
By: esc to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jul 13 2023 01:08 am

The only band I expect to hear the same in concert as on tape
was Rush. Something about the way they performed made them
sound the closest to recording of any band I listened to.

Interestingly, if I see a band and they play exactly what was in
their recordings, I get a bit disappointed. I prefer some degree
of chaos and improvisation. I can appreciate the attention to
detail and the precision required to recreate the album
experience, but it's not my preferred idea of live music. To
each their own, though!

I don't mind a bit of improvisation at live concerts (and in some
cases, it can actually make for some fairly cool versions of songs),
but I wouldn't want them to stray too far. Mark Knopfler (of Dire
Straits) said something about that in one of his live performances -
He commented something like when recording the intro to Brothers In
Arms, the initial few notes didn't come out quite as intended, but he
tries to play it like that in live concerts because the music people
listen to tends to become a sort of soundtrack for our life, with
memories we associate with it, etc.. I'm paraphrasing, but his idea
was that he didn't want to stray far from the songs people know and
love and come to see him perform.

That said, he's never played Sultans of Swing the same way twice, ever,
but it's still an amazing tune whether it's a 4 minute version or a 14
minute version. A lot of the solos on the early records consisted of
improvised playing.
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