• 3ds

    From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to All on Fri Dec 2 22:15:07 2022
    just to let you all know you most likely will need to buy download cards in order to buy games on the 3ds store.


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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Utopian Galt on Sun Dec 4 10:56:00 2022
    On 02 Dec 2022, Utopian Galt said the following...
    just to let you all know you most likely will need to buy download cards in order to buy games on the 3ds store.

    From what I understand Nintendo took it down. I up until this point have chosen not to mod my 3DS but you won't be able to get the software you paid for online in the future so nope back that up.

    I figured Nintendo would at least keep the online system in place since in the end it cost them almost nothing to operate.

    All the more reason I just don't support consoles. PC is the way to go.

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  • From Ganiman@21:3/174 to claw on Sun Dec 4 12:54:35 2022
    From what I understand Nintendo took it down. I up until this point have chosen not to mod my 3DS but you won't be able to get the software you paid for online in the future so nope back that up.

    Softmode your 3ds, it isn't hard. Own your hardware and do what you want with it. Nintendo sure doesnt care about it anymore. Don't be afraid to do it. Softmod all the old consoles and handhelds.

    I figured Nintendo would at least keep the online system in place since
    in the end it cost them almost nothing to operate.

    Nintendo is gonna be Nintendo. Don't worry, they will resell all of these games to you on another console in the future.

    All the more reason I just don't support consoles. PC is the way to go.

    There can be some pretty awful things about PC gaming too. There can be some great exclusives on consoles that PC won't see for years or ever too. There are plenty of pros and cons to each of them.

    Buy physical games or try to use GOG. You rarely ever own your digital purchases.

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Ganiman on Mon Dec 5 08:00:40 2022
    On 04 Dec 2022, Ganiman said the following...
    Softmode your 3ds, it isn't hard. Own your hardware and do what you want with it. Nintendo sure doesnt care about it anymore. Don't be afraid to
    do it. Softmod all the old consoles and handhelds.


    Yup its done. Didn't do much with it but its modded.

    Nintendo is gonna be Nintendo. Don't worry, they will resell all of
    these games to you on another console in the future.


    Yeah I know, but as someone that doesn't buy consoles I won't be buying again. Closest thing I have to that is the Steam Deck. Which is really just a PC with a modified Linux to make it idiot proof.

    There can be some pretty awful things about PC gaming too. There can be some great exclusives on consoles that PC won't see for years or ever
    too. There are plenty of pros and cons to each of them.

    Buy physical games or try to use GOG. You rarely ever own your digital purchases.
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    Yeah I can see that which is why I really support steam. I have most of my DRM based media on them and if possible I always get it there just because they are the most likely to keep going in the future.

    I have bought on GOG before but don't think about it as much as I should.

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  • From Nightfox to claw on Mon Dec 5 11:19:48 2022
    Re: Re: 3ds
    By: claw to Utopian Galt on Sun Dec 04 2022 10:56 am

    From what I understand Nintendo took it down. I up until this point have chosen not to mod my 3DS but you won't be able to get the software you paid for online in the future so nope back that up.

    I briefly had a 3DS XL. I thought it was cool, but ended up not using it much, so I sold it.

    I do have a Nintendo Wii. I was disappointed when Nintendo took the Wii Store offline several years ago. I decided to mod my Wii, and now I have emulators on it as well as the app (I don't remember its name) that lets you copy Wii games and run them from a hard drive, etc.. I believe that same app also acts as a sort of unofficial 3rd-party app store for the Wii.

    I hadn't bought much from the Wii Store when I did use it. I think I had only bought 3 things: Mega Man 9, Mega Man 10, and Super Mario 64 from their classic emulated games section.

    I still like to use my Nintendo Wii every so often. I like the Wii Sports games for it - but I think the Nintendo Switch has something similar to Wii Sports?

    Nightfox
  • From Nightfox to Ganiman on Mon Dec 5 11:22:39 2022
    Re: Re: 3ds
    By: Ganiman to claw on Sun Dec 04 2022 12:54 pm

    There can be some pretty awful things about PC gaming too. There can be some great exclusives on consoles that PC won't see for years or ever too. There are plenty of pros and cons to each of them.

    I've tended to play games on my PC a lot more than on a console. The newest game console I have is a Nintendo Wii.. If I miss out on some console games, I figure that's just the way it goes, and there are still plenty of PC games to play.

    Buy physical games or try to use GOG. You rarely ever own your digital purchases.

    I've been buying games from Steam for a while now. Steam had a feature that would let you make backups of your games, and would also write ISO images so you can burn them to DVD-R if you wanted to. I'm not sure if Steam still has that feature though..

    Nightfox
  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Claw on Sun Dec 4 18:16:10 2022
    BY: claw(21:1/210)


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    |11c|09> |10in the end it cost them almost nothing to operate. |07
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    |11c|09> |10All the more reason I just don't support consoles. PC is the way to go.|07
    I think there should be full refunds if a product is not kept on the digital store for at least 5 years. Partial refunds from 50% if taken down at year 5 day 1, to 10% refunded at year 9. People should be guranteed at least 10 years of digital access to their media.


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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Nightfox on Tue Dec 6 07:52:52 2022
    On 05 Dec 2022, Nightfox said the following...
    I briefly had a 3DS XL. I thought it was cool, but ended up not using
    it much, so I sold it.

    I do have a Nintendo Wii. I was disappointed when Nintendo took the Wii Store offline several years ago. I decided to mod my Wii, and now I
    have emulators on it as well as the app (I don't remember its name) that lets you copy Wii games and run them from a hard drive, etc.. I believe that same app also acts as a sort of unofficial 3rd-party app store for the Wii.

    I hadn't bought much from the Wii Store when I did use it. I think I
    had only bought 3 things: Mega Man 9, Mega Man 10, and Super Mario 64
    from their classic emulated games section.

    I still like to use my Nintendo Wii every so often. I like the Wii
    Sports games for it - but I think the Nintendo Switch has something similar to Wii Sports?

    Nightfox

    I used my wii for a good while when it first came out. Modded it with the WODE. That has a built in ripper for games. I have a few on there just don't have a CRTv sitting around to connect it too. I'm sure I can find some converter to get in an HDMI. Once the kids are gone and I have room for things like that I will get it going again.

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Utopian Galt on Tue Dec 6 07:58:47 2022
    I agree I think it should go beyond that but I agree.

    I think that they should be required to make DRM free copies available for at least a full year and those that don't get them in time or notice in time get an automated refund of 50% of the value no matter how long its been. One of the only places that can promise that sort of thing would be Steam. They won't be going anywhere anytime soon. No one else can compete.

    That seems fair.

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  • From Nightfox to claw on Tue Dec 6 08:42:03 2022
    Re: Re: Nintendo
    By: claw to Nightfox on Tue Dec 06 2022 07:52 am

    I used my wii for a good while when it first came out. Modded it with the WODE. That has a built in ripper for games. I have a few on there just don't have a CRTv sitting around to connect it too. I'm sure I can find some converter to get in an HDMI. Once the kids are gone and I have room for things like that I will get it going again.

    I have a 55" flat panel TV that I bought in 2015, and it has analog component inputs, which I'm using for my Nintendo Wii. But there are converter adapters available if your TV only has HDMI.

    I bought a second TV last year that only has HDMI, and it had me wondering if TVs have now generally dropped component & composite inputs altogether. Or maybe the second TV I bought doesn't have them because it's a lower-end model?

    Nightfox
  • From Ganiman@21:3/174 to Nightfox on Tue Dec 6 13:02:40 2022
    I have a 55" flat panel TV that I bought in 2015, and it has analog component inputs, which I'm using for my Nintendo Wii. But there are converter adapters available if your TV only has HDMI.

    I bought a second TV last year that only has HDMI, and it had me
    wondering if TVs have now generally dropped component & composite inputs altogether. Or maybe the second TV I bought doesn't have them because it's a lower-end model?

    Take a look at My Life in Gaming on Youtube. They have many videos covering the topics of upscaling and getting the best signal and picture out of your old consoles. There is a lot of information about it - too much to post in one reply here.

    Yes, TVs have basically dropped composite and component inputs. And if they have them, their interal upscalers are so bad you don't want to use it anyway. Watch the My Life in Gaming content and look up Retrotink. Retrotink probably makes the best upscalers today. They have a few models in different price ranges. They might not be cheap but they are very much worth it and will future proof your old consoles for many years to come.

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  • From Nightfox to Ganiman on Tue Dec 6 10:06:21 2022
    Re: Re: Nintendo
    By: Ganiman to Nightfox on Tue Dec 06 2022 01:02 pm

    Yes, TVs have basically dropped composite and component inputs. And if they have them, their interal upscalers are so bad you don't want to use it anyway. Watch the My Life in Gaming content and look up Retrotink. Retrotink probably makes the best upscalers today. They have a few models in different price ranges. They might not be cheap but they are very much worth it and will future proof your old consoles for many years to come.

    Interesting.. I thought if my TV had the component inputs, there wouldn't be much point in buying an HDMI adapter for my Nintendo Wii. I'd heard there would be little to no visual difference.. I actually think the Wii looks okay on the TV I'm using it with. I wonder how different it might look if its video was upscaled, and if there would be any lag in the video due to it being processed and upscaled.

    Nightfox
  • From Ganiman@21:3/174 to Nightfox on Tue Dec 6 14:10:51 2022
    I wonder how
    different it might look if its video was upscaled, and if there would be any lag in the video due to it being processed and upscaled.

    MLiG vidoes will go in depth about this. Another good resource is https://www.retrorgb.com .

    There are different solutions for different budgets and depending on how far down the rabbit hole you want to. I've went pretty deep many years ago and have many retro consoles set up for RGB SCART and PVMs. That is not for everyone. A Retrotink is a good investment and will go a long way. You will get like 1 frame of lag with them if I recall, which is as good as it gets, and I think some of them can take in 240p/480i/480p and output 740p/1080p/1440p. They have scaling options too so you can get things to look how you prefer.

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  • From Nightfox to Ganiman on Tue Dec 6 13:27:14 2022
    Re: Re: Nintendo
    By: Ganiman to Nightfox on Tue Dec 06 2022 02:10 pm

    MLiG vidoes will go in depth about this. Another good resource is https://www.retrorgb.com .

    Interesting, I'll have to check it out.

    There are different solutions for different budgets and depending on how far down the rabbit hole you want to. I've went pretty deep many years ago and have many retro consoles set up for RGB SCART and PVMs. That is not for everyone. A Retrotink is a good investment and will go a long way. You will get like 1 frame of lag with them if I recall, which is as good as it gets, and I think some of them can take in 240p/480i/480p and output 740p/1080p/1440p. They have scaling options too so you can get things to look how you prefer.

    I'm not really familiar with SCART (I think SCART is a European standard?) I think I saw an SCART TV once when I was in Germany, but I'm in the US and haven't seen it here.

    Nightfox
  • From Ganiman@21:3/174 to Nightfox on Tue Dec 6 19:00:33 2022
    I'm not really familiar with SCART (I think SCART is a European
    standard?) I think I saw an SCART TV once when I was in Germany, but
    I'm in the US and haven't seen it here.

    Yes, it is an EU standard, and also has a form in Japan called JP21 (connector looks the same, but the pinout is different - do not mix them!). I however am in the US. Quality SCART cables still provide some of the best and cleanest signals for the sharpest images.

    Another good solution for many consoles is to use the HD Retrovision cables. An example of their work would be component cables for SNES (yes, you read that right). Component is still a great way to go for many things, but know that the upscalers built into TVs are usually pretty bad for a variety of reasons and an component > HDMI upscaler will give you many more years of enjoyment from your old consoles.

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  • From Commodore Clifford@21:3/171 to Nightfox on Thu Dec 8 08:30:04 2022
    On 06 Dec 22 08:42:03 Nightfox wrote...

    Re: Re: Nintendo By: claw to Nightfox on Tue Dec 06 2022 07:52 am

    I used my wii for a good while when it first came out. Modded it
    with the WODE. That has a built in ripper for games. I have a
    few on there just don't have a CRTv sitting around to connect it
    too. I'm sure I can find some converter to get in an HDMI. Once
    the kids are gone and I have room for things like that I will
    get it going again.

    I have a 55" flat panel TV that I bought in 2015, and it has analog component inputs, which I'm using for my Nintendo Wii. But there are converter adapters available if your TV only has HDMI.

    I bought a second TV last year that only has HDMI, and it had me
    wondering if TVs have now generally dropped component & composite
    inputs altogether. Or maybe the second TV I bought doesn't have them because it's a lower-end model?

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    To which Commodore Clifford replies...

    I think it's the lower end model....

    I bought one a few years ago and it had all the connectors.

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  • From test4d@21:1/126 to claw on Tue Dec 27 05:13:16 2022
    imo, I think DRM should not even be a thing at all, I don't see any value in it.

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to test4d on Tue Dec 27 07:54:57 2022
    I see both sides. If I but a thing it should be unrestricted. However with out some decent way to protect your software any one can just copy it around and you will make nothing on it.

    If you can solve this problem your a genius.

    How do you get people to not pirate the software and release it DRM Free?

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  • From Matthew Munson@21:4/108 to Claw on Mon Jan 2 18:48:22 2023
    BY: claw(21:1/210)


    |11c|09> |10I see both sides. If I but a thing it should be unrestricted. However|07
    |11c|09> |10with out some decent way to protect your software any one can just copy|07
    |11c|09> |10it around and you will make nothing on it. |07
    Software stores digitally should give people 5 years of minimum use. If they do not they are liable to refund the consumer the cost of the product.


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